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Considering Joe has millions of listeners I would say he is mainstream, but then again I am probably talking to a wall by making this comment.

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I think that is more a quantification of the unmet need mainstream media creates by not discussing topics like DMT and the simulation hypothesis. The long form of content enables conversations even about the most fringe topics.

The Overton window doesn't magically shifts when millions of people are serviced by a 3th party outside the Overton window.

Exactly, the mainstream has always been there; but the "mainstream" media has long been talking down to it rather than with it, and this void in respect of the common man and woman is something that centrist people like Rogan fill by just being open to a variety of opinion and ideas, and refusing to demonise people because they don't sign up to ivory tower prescriptions and proscriptions.

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