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Now, is perhaps the best time to do something about climate change if that is something we seriously want to defeat. Right now, we have already laid off and forced so many people to stay home and stop working. We are in the perfect position to evaluate what jobs are actually necessary and cut off as much fat as we can in our society. Pay a basic income so that these people don't have to forever drive to their wage slave jobs that they hate and then drive back home and sleep, only to repeat again the next day. Kill off huge industries that have been kept alive by low wages and poor working conditions that people have no choice but to endure at the threat of poverty and death. Let people live their lives and if even one person, who would've originally been working at McDonalds to pay rent, can invent something like the cure for cancer or a solution to increasing CO2 levels, then it will all pay off. If not, at least you get a nicer society who won't be a few meals away from rioting and killing each other on the streets.

Let people live their lives and if even one person, who would've originally been working at McDonalds to pay rent, can invent something like the cure for cancer or a solution to increasing CO2 levels, then it will all pay off.

If you are suggesting that UBI will give us this, this is highly unlikely.

I have been getting myself well with a very deadly condition for 19 years. I spent nearly six years homeless.

The biggest barrier I face to disseminating this information boils down to credibility and connections. No one wants to hear what I have to say. I'm a former homemaker, not a "scientist."

I don't think UBI will lead to what people think it will. Money is not the biggest barrier. That's not the problem poor people have.

Mostly: The problems they have lead to a lack of money, not the other way around.

>That's not the problem poor people have

Are you sure? I don't have any numbers on it, but I like to think the amount of homeless who are truly lost causes where money would not help is very small. I'm poor and if money was not a priority, I'd be able to work on stuff like programming and pursuing writing as a hobby. That's pretty much what I've been doing now that I can justifiably take UI and stay home for some time without worrying about how to pay rent and buy food. For me, hell yeah money is the biggest barrier. And the only options in front of me are to work at shitty minimum wage food service jobs which are now destroyed.

Yes, I'm sure.

One of the things driving poverty and homelessness in the US is a lack of affordable housing in walkable neighborhoods. If you could work a shitty minimum wage job part-time while living without a car and cover the cost of a room while getting free medical care through the US government, you could write or program or whatever.

Poor people have no voice in things like what kind of housing gets built or how healthcare is paid for. Corporations and rich people design that and they design stuff that works for them and that increases pressure on the masses.

It doesn't have to be that way.

Money follows rights and power, not the other way around. If money gave people power, lottery winners would run this world. They don't. About 2/3s of them end up bankrupt within five years.

Edit: I've had a college class on Homelessness and Public Policy. I still write about homelessness, such as:

https://streetlifesolutions.blogspot.com/

I'm largely in agreement with you. UBI may not be the right path, but we are thinking toward the same goal probably. I'll take whatever I can get.

If you want to write, you can do that for money right now and develop your talent while enhancing your bottom line:

http://writepay.blogspot.com/

Not necessarily looking to become part of a content mill. As I mentioned, I want to write as a personal hobby/creative pursuit. Thank you though.

I grew up in a very poor family and the other poster is right... many people living the degenerate lifestyle have entirely bizarre understandings of reality, acceptable social behavior, mortality and ethics, quality and efficiency... We're creatures of habit and keeping your mind in the gutter long enough will soak it full of crud that can't be reversed simply by dishing out cash.

It's my opinion that these people would be most helped if they were given work. Work gives incentive, teaches values, gives opportunity, creates a foundation of something to be proud of, gives a platform to build a resume from...

"We are in the perfect position to evaluate what jobs are actually necessary"

Who's this "We" you're talking about? 'Cause if it's me then I think this is a great idea. If it's you than I think it's maybe not the best idea ever.

And if it's "experts" all I would say is that that it better be an expert of my choosing not yours.

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