Tesla sues Alameda County to force California factory reopening
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Joe Rogan challenged him on this, asking “how can you trust the Chinese media”?
Elon’s answer: We don’t have to rely on the media. We know how many people we have. We have to; we do payroll.
He has a point. And zero is a pretty good number.
If they know how to do it in China, they can apply those same safety measures elsewhere. I wish he would also acknowledge family spread and fatalities if there are any, because that can also be a thing. But still, hard news, this is something we are going to have to live with for a while. And they are managing it pretty well in one factory at least.
Also if you haven’t ever been to a Tesla factory... it’s not a place where people are crammed together by any means. It’s vast. Workers are quite spread out for the most part.
How many have died of other things? How many have lost grandparents to "pneumonia"? Is anyone sick with an diagnosed respiratory illness? What about suppliers? Have they been impacted? Are any of their people home sick? Saying simply "nobody under my roof is dead" is not helpful.
I see a very wealthy manufacturer of luxury goods lashing out in the face of some cold realities. Oil prices have tanked. The world is looking at serious recession. The growth forecast for luxury electric vehicles is dim.
I do know in a recent meeting we have been told two employees have died world wide out of over fifty thousand yet across the world, if not just in the US, where people who work can work is not consistent nor are the rules consistent.
That said, I do believe that with sufficient protections it should be possible to operate a mostly robotic factory safely. So I do sympathize with him on that front.
China...actually handled this outbreak. That’s why they can reopen. They were locked down for months in many areas. So that comparison if anything is a justification not to reopen right now - stay locked down long enough to squash this, and we’ll be able to safely reopen like China.
If anything he should be suing the county for putting on such an ineffective lockdown which makes this take longer than it needed to. Businesses are forced to close but for individuals it’s basically a completely voluntary lockdown right now and I see lots of people opting out, not wearing masks, meeting up with friends, etc.
BTW if you don’t wear a mask and go out without getting within 6 feet of anyone, you’re not opting out of California guidance. You’re following it. Masks are for if you do expect to encounter situations where you are closer than 6 feet for an extended time. People are lazy and don’t read the fine print, and they miss this part.
Exactly, this is the type of half-assed measures that may be preventing our decline in cases. (If it's not, and there is good evidence of exactly what types of activities California's continued plateau of cases is coming from, I would be very interested to read about that).
Unless you're in a very rural area, you can't possibly be sure that you won't have to pass within 6 ft of someone when you go outside. A single other person walking on the sidewalk with you is going to inevitably be less than 6 ft away. Not to mention that the 6ft advice was just ballpark to begin with, and the virus can seemingly travel further in e.g. the slipstreams of a runner or biker's breath, or even hang around in the air. Masks should be required even outside during the Phase 1, full-lockdown phase. It's a such a minor additional inconvenience for people.
Prior to this crisis I would not have thought shutting down businesses at large scale would be possible without legislation. But I haven't heard of much legislative proceedings.
Have governor's and local officials always had very broad powers over people and businesses, they just never used it at scale until the pandemic? I understand if there is a disaster and you can't convene the legislature fast enough to respond, and you need 72 hours of time to let the legislature come together (for example an earthquake or terrorist event). But there has been plenty of time now for our normal legislative process to resume. Does this have to do with an emergency declaration? Is there a limit to how long an emergency can be declared (like 60 days of a year)?
Example from the sci-fi game Deus Ex:
> Informed Guard: Executive Order 10990. It lets us take over all modes of transportation.
> New Guard: FEMA can do that?
> Informed Guard: If the President declares an emergency. Executive Order 10995. We can take over the media.
> New Guard: All of it?
> Informed Guard: Any at all. Executive Order 10997. We can take command of natural resources.
> New Guard: So it's all legal.
> Informed Guard: The National Security Act also falls under our umbrella. And the Defense Production Act. If he plays his cards right, Walton Simons can pull off a bloodless coup.
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Musk sure knows how to get people's attention. Maybe he's got a future in politics.
Seeing as he's extremely wealthy, powerful, and connected, I'd say that's a good guess.
He’s too libertarian and irresponsible with his comments for the Democrats to want him.
He’s far too liberal in his causes and companies to be a Republican.
Of course I don’t believe either party can stop affiliation if he did decide to enter into politics.
Of course that’s only really talking about the federal level. He could have a much better shot at the state or local level as an independent or as a member of either party.
Edit: As someone pointed out, Musk isn't a natural-born citizen and therefore can't run for President. So there is no political office that could be even remotely worth the bother.
But I agree, I do not think he’d ever do a political run. I was merely responding to the other person with my initial comment.
Hopefully as the first King of Mars.
Pretty funny to watch it on Twitter, when he calls for a re-open and the leftist environmental crowd gets all outraged, because they consider that a "right wing" position.
And then he talks about UBI and welfare state, and all the liberals and right wingers get upset.
Reason and politics just aren't a good match.