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I just looked to check. Still no physical Fn keys, still shallow butterfly keyboard. That's a pass.

Hopefully Apple comes to its senses some day and creates a computer that is designed for actual work, where a single beard follicle is not going to make it unusable midday.

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The Magic Keyboard uses scissor switches, not butterfly.

And how do these scissors work with beard follicle? It's all the same to me, really, if it can't survive piece of hair. For the past 20 years I have been using Thinkpads.

My last one is T440s which I bought immediately it was available and still wait for it to die. I would like a MBP but seeing what the Thinkpad went through I just don't think so. I spilled stuff on it not once but twice, once hot latte and once a liter of mineral water in a bag. I had to open it and stand it on its side while open so that water drains out of it... Then I had to disassemble it and dry individual leaves of which the screen is composed of.

I had to take the rest of the day off in both cases to save my laptop but other than that I was ready for work the next day, files intact, tools in place.

T440s also uses scissors like almost every laptop

Thinkpad keyboard is completely unlike Apple keyboards, however the technology is called. Just the key travel on Thinkpad is probably more than entire thickness of Apple keyboard.

Having both a macbook and a Thinkpad, the Thinkpad trackpad is absolutely horrendous to use.

No butterfly keyboard on these models. That, at least, is on its way out.

Not butterfly, scissor.

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