Turkey is essentially a dictatorship, if you want to believe in their numbers feel free to do so but I'm very skeptical about the accuracy of their reports.
"I don't like Erdogan and his policies" is not good enough to dismiss Turkey as a closed society, the country is NOT like DPRK or Iran. Turkey is financially and institutionally integrated with Europe and the USA.
This(dismissing the country solely on its current political situation or lack of awareness beyond the stereotype and prejudice) is exactly the mentality that I am talking about and I suspect that it is killing many people in the west.
(I agree with the obvious followup, that we should check to see if other countries we believe are doing well look good in the same metric.)
That said, it's no different than what's happening some other western countries. There are reports about the UK numbers being higher too, essentially the idea is that some deaths are not reported as COVID-19 deaths if it happens out of hospital or pre-testing.
People are not dying en masse. The mortality is increased and maybe the real numbers are %50 more than the official numbers but even then it's much better than most places.
I don't say that to knock on Turkey, just to explain the perspective. People aren't ignoring Turkey because they don't trust Turkey specifically; it's because they don't trust any of these numbers. The idea that there's some core competency of pandemic response possessed by almost every country in the world but absent in most of the West seems... implausible.
I don't know about Mexico, I cannot comment about them but if they are doing even better than Turkey, good for them but I cannot comment on that, I don't know the reality on the ground.
China's numbers cannot be trusted. Turkey's numbers cannot be trusted. WHO cannot be trusted.
Even Germany cannot be trusted; I saw a statement from an Italien doctor saying that reason for the difference between Germany and Italy was that Germany was systematically undercounting deaths (for political reasons).
They are overworked and are under the risk of antisocial patients but Silencing a doctor in Turkey is not as easy as silencing a journo. They are well educated, well paid and well organized. It is very unlikely that a doctor would participate in a cover-up in fear of politicians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_arrested_journalists_i...
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/03/27/turkey-crackdown-social-...
https://ahvalnews.com/germany-turkey/turkey-detains-german-n...
https://cpj.org/reports/2019/12/journalists-jailed-china-tur...
That's not the situation with the doctors. The doctors in Turkey are picked from Crème de la crème among the students, educated in some of the most prestigious institutions and paid very well. They have money, they have options, they have connections.
Doctors are not journalists, these lists are about journalists and it is correct that Erdogan destroyed the press freedom in Turkey but Doctors don't work for the TV channels and the newspaper and they have access to social media.
There isn't much to debate, Turkey is universally seen as a dictatorship and has a track record of doing very shady and questionable things (which are not even close to being acceptable in the EU or US). Feel free to believe whatever you want but you haven't provided any resources besides your own idea of what Turkey is and this view isn't backed by anyone besides Erdoğan supporters.
They need to accuse you of something and have a trail. All can be unfair and it is often unfair but you don't disappear, you can fight in the process and it catches a lot of public attention. Being a doctor means that the public loves you, trusts you, you have the money and the connections to fight.
If there was a cover-up, I am sure that doctors would have been talking because there are many doctors openly critical to the government and they even have a society for that. This is not Iran, China, DPRK or whatever country where you can just disappear.
You should probably just stop digging, information is available on internet for free and every single one of your claims can be refuted in a few seconds. They do send people to jail over the most ridiculous things, even doctors.
Whatever. Believe whatever you want, go ahead believe that I died from COVID-19 but the government is covering up by writing replies to you from my account.
Things are fine in Turkey(regarding the COVID-19 situation), Erdogan being a dictator doesn't change a thing about that, journalist in jail don't automatically count as COVID-19 deaths.
Why would they tell the truth and make their country look bad if they can avoid it ? You won't make me believe Turkey has a better health care system, testing facilities and post mortem checks than EU countries. Do they send people in remote rural areas and check the causes of death from people who died in the last 3 months ? Do they count people with comorbidities ? Do they count people dying outside of hospitals ?
> stereotype and prejudice
It literally is a military dictatorship, like, what ?! do we have to accept everything no matter how fucked up they are these days ? The world isn't rainbow and sunshine, you won't make me trust Turkey on these kind of topics. I simply don't buy it, there is such a long trail of lies, deceptions, propaganda, &c. Look at what Trump gets away with while being under spotlight worldwide, now imagine what a guy like Erdoğan gets away with ...
I would suggest you do some research, like researching if it's a military dictatorship or not. Check out what happened to the military in 2016 when they attempted a coup. The results may surprise you.
Anyway, the Turkish health system is quite similar to NHS and the doctors are severely overworked so I wouldn't claim that Turkey has a better health system but I would claim that it is handling the COVID-19 response better than the most.
Turkey is not a closed society, there are many ways to verify these claims.
Actually, this deeply flawed understanding of the situation in Turkey is part of the problem anyway. If you can overcome this, you can learn a thing or two from the way Turkey is handling the situation. Take it or leave it.
The first link that pops when typing "turkey coup aftermath" in google starts with "The aftermath of the failed Turkey coup: Torture, beatings and rape". I'm not sure where I'm supposed to be surprised.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/aftermath-failed-turkey-coup-tort...
In Turkey's case, the military attempted a coup, failed and the civilians did these things to the military.
Pro tip: The guys with the uniform are the military ones, they got beaten on the streets when attempted to establish a military dictatorship.
Wikipedia even state their numbers: "97% of Turkish Armed Forces ranking officers and 66% of the military's top leadership" sided with Erdoğan. The coup was attempted by a little over 10k people.
I frankly don't think you researched any of what you're talking about.
I don't claim that Turkey is a functioning democracy but this doesn't make it a military dictatorship. turkey has many problems, that doesn't make it wrong or bad in every other aspect too.