Bravo.
Sometimes while reading an article I silently curse the load time or layout or terminology. Then I see others here discussing that.
HN does not disappoint.
From a personal perspective, the discussion quality on HN (on average) has declined over the past couple years. In the past the majority of comments were more substantial; it was more common to see paragraphs of well thought-out comments that delved into nitty gritty details when addressing a point.
But in the past couple years there's been a gradual increase in single-sentence comments that contribute nothing to discussion but only end up taking up screen space. Like the random person who wants to throw in their 2 cents, but have zero cents to offer.
Even HN is not immune to Eternal September.
Complaints about HN getting more like Reddit go back to 2007, before it was even called Hacker News.
"What is life?" "What is good?" "What is need?" "What is you?" "What is what?"
And those discussions will never end unless the time itself ends.
> Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!
(this is a philosophical joke)
People go into Karen mode here, yes they bought expensive piece of hardware with expensive operating system. Though site is rather technically minded they still underestimate how complex are those things.
It just another "Dropbox? Who needs that I can do the same in an hour", but somehow they don't realize when you have a budget, timelines and as always not enough developers who understand this specific thing - it is different than sitting on your own and making perfect thing. (which then if scrutinized by some other dev would be labeled as crap :D)
"Whenever the band found brown M&M's candies backstage, they immediately did a complete line check, inspecting every aspect of the sound, lighting and stage setup to make sure it was perfect. David Lee Roth would also trash the band’s dressing room to prove a point -- reinforcing his reputation in the process."
So, in summary: the team of roadies DIDN'T always do a a complete line check. And DLR would just make life hard for the hotel staff. That's just dumb all around.
As a result, some large percentage of readers are let down by the actual content, and think it wasn't worth reading, let alone commenting on.
That your Mac can get to the point by an Apple OS update that you need to enter recovery mode? (Even as someone who is exclusively Apple, I have seen the mockery Microsoft has endured for similar).
Or worse, to the point that unless you have access to a spare Mac or the _currently closed_ Apple stores, you are shit out of luck?
"Eh, no big deal, not worth reading or commenting on".
The fact that an OS update can brick a device is a non-event, it's happened before and will happen again. Apple is not perfect, no one is. They do a pretty good job most of the time, comparatively¹.
The fact that in the case of Apple you have to suffer the aforementioned shenanigans to maybe solve the problem is, well, coincidental. It's not an event in itself either.
Note this is why production machines in professional environments usually wait a few weeks-months to update. Also why security updates are generally offered on their own (shouldn't wait to install those).
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1: Note that, I personally can't stand being at the mercy of 1 corporation so I took matters in my own hands and run Linux: it rarely fails. When it does, it's usually my fault, so I can assign blame, learn my lesson and move on. Otherwise, I'd have to accept that every so often, a proprietary vendor update may brick the device.
> Bravo.
'Bravi', or 'brave'(f) would be the plural of that.
This thread is almost as shit as Catalina.
I have never heard anyone but you say this ergo it is wrong.
Most content is also available on non-spammy, ethical websites, and we shouldn't support bad actors.
Well, this is not nitpicking. The word "bricked" has a meaning, and this is not what the article describes. From the title, I thought that this update was actually bricking the computer. Thanks to the commenters for pointing it wasn't the case.
Short articles don't have much to discuss. There's no need to get mad that someone isn't laser-focused on the two sentences you think are most important.
1. their devices are (or are on a path of becoming) non-general purpose computing devices.
2. developers are treated like junk on the app store.
Developers are forced to operate in a "market" dominated by a few oligopolists that are obsessed with control, both on their own behalf and on the behalf of governments.
Also I’ve read that submissions with too much early comment activity get removed automatically for seemingly being too controversial. If so then maybe that rule should apply to comments as well. Controversial comments could automatically sink lower despite upvote count, as well as older comments.
Regardless of what you think about HN comments, this is antisocial behavior, and can't possibly raise the quality of discussion.