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Youtube is a lost cause. It has too many ads now, I don't use it anymore.

Just pay for it. If you’re using it enough to complain, pay for it. $10 a month.

The real 'hack' is to subscribe to Google Play Music All Access. A music streaming service that rivals Spotify, and comes with YouTube Premium (and YT Music) bundled in.

In my country that's not the case, subscribing to Google Play Music does not grant access to YouTube Premium.

Also the "Google Play Music All Access" is 4.90 USD and YouTube Premium is 5.80 USD, not much of a difference.

Also a family pack for Play Music isn't available. And the Family Pack (5 members) for YouTube Premium is 8.69 USD, which is what I'm on and all slots are occupied, so it's obviously a better deal.

Honestly thought it was all the same thing, heh! Do what this person says instead!

What's the library like - if I pick a random artist that has < 50000 monthly listeners on spotify how likely is google play music to have them too?

Google Play Music has 40m tracks to Spotify's 50m, but you can upload your own music to fill in any gaps.

It’s more or less the same catalog.

As you can deduce from my comment, I think $10 a month is too much. I'll just download the video and watch it offline later.

(I understand the sentiment, but it's actually more like $15 a month here. Plus I make about a fifth of what a developer in the USA might make, pre-taxes. After taxes, rent, and groceries, $15 is about 10% of my monthly budget. I am not going to spend it on cat videos.)

Install ublock origin. It blocks Youtube ads.

I'd rather we don't suggest options that limit the amount of money creators get.

If you don't like the ads, just pay for premium.

The problem is that the price is poorly adjusted to local markets. The subscription in, say, Spain is actually higher than in Sweden, which makes no sense!

Everyone here goes on about how "it's just the price of 3 cups of coffee", but here it's most definitively not.

In Romania it's 5.37 EUR for the solo account, or 8.06 EUR for the family pack.

5.37 EUR is the price of 2 Starbucks lattes, 8.06 EUR the price of 3 lattes.

Not insignificant, but given the lack of ads (very important for my kid to not be exposed to brainwashing crap), or option of playing in the background for my phone, it's totally worth it. And I think overall I watch more YouTube than Netflix.

> 5.37 EUR is the price of 2 Starbucks lattes, 8.06 EUR the price of 3 lattes.

Yeah, and that's why there are like three Starbucks in my whole EU country. A latte in any coffeeshop here costs 1.2€, because they're adjusted to local salaries.

For another data point, in Mexico it's down to 119 MXN (4.80 USD) per month.

That's giving in to extortion.

Newpipe on mobile, ublock origin on desktop. Problem solved.

https://www.invidio.us/

Alternative for iOS users. Bookmark, save to home screen - search for your YouTube video on there.

Subscribe if that annoys you that much.

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