Sources?

We have tons of non-China sources, and their death rate is low because of their overwhelmingly aggressive response and tactics, which were lauded by the WHO.

So, I'm not to trust a government - which is fair; I don't - but a totally unsourced and unverifiable Reddit post is 100% okay? When its claim is that the CCP is competent enough to enforce the murder by starvation of two innocent people, while the existence of the post that makes the claim implies that the CCP is too incompetent to prevent word of such a crime getting out, even to the point of issuing an official document to prove they're doing it?

Do you see what I mean about seeming like a conspiracy theory? Heinlein's Red-baiting about Soviet cosmonauts unpersoned when their early space capsules failed and stranded them, despite being nonsense, had at least the virtue of originality. But that was over half a century ago. I'd like to hope our standards have risen in the interim.

Have you considered it takes a while for cases to filter up or down? Incompetence is usually a better candidate than malice. It could be they'll report it a few days from now, or that these cases were found and reported a few days prior to the 20th and were folded into earlier reportings. For instance, if the cases were identified and reported on the 18th, and the notice was posted on the 20th, that would remain consistent.

Stop with the unfounded speculation and fearmongering.

> Which begs the question, what are we getting wrong in the rest of the world?

They literally locked people in their homes in the entirety of Wuhan (population 19 million) for a month and sent drones after them if they walked out. It's really not possible for a disease to spread if people are physically isolated. That much is settled science haha.

The difference is China kept people apart by force, and much of the west doesn't have the necessary respect for authority to do so voluntarily. One comment I replied to here someone literally quoted me the national anthem as their justification for going outside and ignoring the shelter-in-place orders.

If there's one thing a totalitarian government can do effectively, it's lock people indoors.

Wake up. No other country implemented the same measures at the same point in the infection curve.

The United Nations World Health Organization, contributed to by the entire world, is a propaganda arm of the Chinese. [citation needed]. Weird, as of 2012, the largest annual assessed contributions from member states came from the United States ($110 million), Japan ($58 million), Germany ($37 million), United Kingdom ($31 million) and France ($31 million). [1]

They may well have been wrong, or made mistakes early on. You can't exactly claim that the US' response was bang on the money the whole time either. Remember two weeks ago when Donald Trump told us this was nothing to worry about then the next day declared a national emergency then the day after invoked the defense procurement act then did nothing with it? Remember a few days ago when he called it the "deep state department" in front of Fauci who couldn't contain his laughter? Is Donald Trump a propaganda arm of the Chinese? Uh actually wait don't answer that, but you get my point.

It's usually incompetence not malice. Provide sources, not speculation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization#Fina...