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Comment by Keverw | Hacker News Reader

Yeah, same with Apple Card. Need to have a iPhone as they can’t make a website to view your statements and pay like 99.99% of credit cards have. So if you want to maintain that account and switch to another platform like Android that could be tricky. Or if you lose your iPhone however I think calling support might work but not sure how they’d handle payments without your iPhone.

Also if you sign with iPhone, and want to switch phones I’d hope the developer would have a way to set a username or email and password on your account or link another account. So you could have Facebook and Apple linked to the same account, unlink, etc.

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Anyone can create an Apple ID with or without Apple hardware.

Yeah signin with Apple works on the web if I recall form the keynote but I think a developer offering a way to switch linked accounts makes sense.

I think Apple offering a eco system is interesting though but seems to create lock-ins. Like if you have a Apple Watch, can’t switch to Android as easily either. Then texting or calling from your Mac using your iPhone is also cool but another hurtle if you ever wanted to switch if you really liked that feature.

Apple creating an ecosystem is fine. Apple forcing devs to use their ecosystem if they’ve previously implemented login via Facebook is a cowardly move. Even Apple knows that very few devs would implement this if it wasn’t a requirement.

I’m writing this from an iPhone (and just bought an iPad Pro yesterday). I don’t hate Apple. I don’t trust Facebook. But the only way Apple can do this at any scale is to leverage their control over the App Store.

For anyone who argues that Apple doesn’t have monopolistic power in the app space, I present this as a counter point.

But Android apps might not support it, for example, even though the same company's iOS app does.

Pretty sure you need an Apple device for the two-factor to work.

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