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If you honestly believe that Trump is in any way on the same "corruption level" as any previous sitting President you're delusional. I'm sorry that reality is getting in the way of the narrative, but it's fairly obvious that he's far worse than any side has elected within living memory. Maybe Nixon is a distant second?

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You mean "better" I hope, not "worse". Nobody else comes close.

It's hard to say exactly what "living memory" should mean, but let's call it WWII. The worst would then be FDR, followed by LBJ or Obama. All caused great harm.

Nixon is an interesting one. The major screw up was relations with China. Other than that, he wasn't bad.

Warren Harding

Thank goodness Obama was scandal free, and good thing we keep catching Trump trying to expose all those crimes committed by Obama administrators (Clinton emails & Russia, Biden & Ukraine, Obama & Iran, Loretta Lynch and Clinton Tarmac meeting, Comey & FISA, etc...).

dont forget the Dijon mustard, how dare he.

You understand that the Obama administration oversaw an illicit investigation of a political rival on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was bought and paid for by the DNC. The FBI and CIA knew the Russia narrative was false and pushed it anyways. Look if you need a Progressive source for this info because you can't appreciate alternative points of view, then Jimmy Dore did a very good job of breaking it down:

https://youtu.be/HjPgO57AzjQ

I believe that investigation started before the Steele dossier. Steele was fuel on an already raging fire.

I forget how much Carter Page was a political rival of Barack Obama somehow.

Thanks for the reminder.

Carter Page was not the real target.

FISA warrants cover two hops. If person Y communicates with both X and Z, a FISA warrant on person X will allow spying on person Z. In this case person X is Carter Page, and person Z is Donald Trump. It is certain that a suitable person Y exists. Such a person would be anybody who communicated, no matter how briefly, with both Carter Page and Donald Trump. Numerous journalists would qualify as person Y.

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