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See also: CapRover. Beats dokku all to hell, in my experience.

Be careful, their (CapRover) embedded NetData image has the NetData upstream defaults for spyware, so you are advised not to enable it (use of their embedded NetData is optional).

https://github.com/caprover/caprover/issues/553

It is straightforward to set up CapRover with an ssh deploy key and a webhook for deploying automatically on any repo change (even from a self-hosted Gitea, which CapRover also makes easy).

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The github issue you linked to and the discussion it contains is the reason I am sticking with dokku. The CapRover maintainer seems to argue in bad faith and not have the users best interest at heart.

Agree. It does not inspire confidence to recommend a product and quickly follow it up with worries about spyware.

And dokku works well for my use cases.

Author here. Just to be clear, this is false information. It's a toxic thread.

1) The author of that thread is calling a software with analytics a spyware. By that definition, any website you use, including this very website you left a comment on, is spyware.

2) NetData is built-in, but it's not enabled by default. Use is free to install/ or not to install the package.

Silent surveillance, which is not disclosed to the user. Additionally, the user's IP (and thus location) is also provided to Google with the surveillance data.

Webpages and local software are not the same thing. Local software does not need to report my activity to Google, a third party, to work. Webpages do require second party communication to function.

Surely you realize the difference. Your attempt to conflate the two is not productive.

If you believe they're the same thing, let's call it "analytics" then, exactly what it is. Let's avoid using the terms like spyware or etc which is an umbrella term which covers very serious damages such as stealing your bank info.

Transmitting a user's activity silently and without their consent is called spying, not analytics.

The way that such surveillance is legitimized into not-spyware is via obtaining AFFIRMATIVE consent from the user.

Without that, it's spying, and software that does so is spyware. It's quite simple.

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