>that person is an ops person, not a "devops" person, as devops is a process; either your org is on it or they aren't

"devops" has made the same slide to meaninglessness as "agile." At one point they might have meant something about the philosophy of getting a job done. They don't anymore. They're buzzwords for a bunch of mutually-incomparable ideas, and as long as we pretend there is still meat in the concepts we're just lending buzzwords credibility.

"devops" is a verbal pyrbar for whatever change management already wanted to make, and shouldn't be seen as much more than a string of characters to get a resume through a regular expression.