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Now that mainstream club drugs such as MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD/Magic Mushrooms are finding their way into therapeutic usage. I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you".

Edit: I'm not advocating recreational drug usage. Just saying, that if mum is on magic mushrooms and studies like these have established safety dosage and clear therapeutic benefits. You can't really tell your teenager that they are going to go crazy if they try some.

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> I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you".

Caffeine and alcohol are "drugs". But they aren't drugs. In the same way, I think we'll the label released from accepted substances, while remaining attached to unacceptable ones.

After Snowden's revelations, I also wondered if the government would change it's practices.

I don't think Psilocybin mushrooms or LSD are used as a club drug.

They're a party drug for sure. LSD is great for festivals, and though I've never done shrooms, I know my friends have gone to shows on them.

In fact, I'd say LSD is used more as a party drug than it is used for anything else.

I don't know about that. All my psychonaut friends would rather lay out in a field in the sun than hit the club on a trip. Festivals are different though.

It also certainly depends on dose. I know after my first experiences my initial thought was that there was no why in hell I’d try that at a festival, but then I saw so many people/friends doing it and decided to give it a try. Was definitely mind blowing.

Where are you getting this from? The only psychedelic I've ever seen people take before clubbing is 2CB.

Festivals are different because there is lots of space. Clubs are too compact and contained for LSD, can make people claustrophobic.

Of course they are, all the time

Perhaps not club, but most definitely festival

There is an entire genre of club/nighttime music called “acid”, fwiw.

Oh they are for sure, they are a big part of club/electronic music culture (both for the producers of said music, and the listeners) - or at least have been in the past - I'm sure trends change.

I think it depends on the definition, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_drug includes them

As long as it's popular understand and opinion of drugs, then ultimately democratic/representative governments are going to have to start changing the narrative if they want to stay in office

MDMA, Ketamine and LSD sure, but mushrooms have been in use for spirituality far longer than mainstream clubs have even been a concept.

Right, but they haven't been classified as an illegal drug in most countries until recently.

And K started with medical use.

They wont change it, as they will be paid lots of lobbying money to not change it.

Yes. Unlike alcohol, there is very little money in those drugs. Most of them aren't even addictive!

Yep, and big pharma dont want people having access to cheap non addictive drugs. It not good for their shareholders. I could never work at a drugs company.

Uhh would definitely never recommend taking LSD or shrooms to go clubbing.

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