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I don't really care who sets it up, but since everyone that is currently on facebook chat (be it Messenger or WhatsApp) is also a customer of some mobile carrier, having the carriers create an alternative is not a completely ridiculous idea when we want to make the chat infrastructure distributed/federated. I'd be happy to MMS my uncle if it didn't cost like two euros per 640x480 picture; RCS seems to be the way I'll be able to do that without going through Facebook.

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> I'd be happy to MMS my uncle if it didn't cost like two euros per 640x480 picture

Wow, where are you living? I haven't paid to send an MMS in nearly ten years...

It's the same in the UK. My phone bill is normally £12 a month - recently it was maybe £1 more. I checked what had happened - I'd accidentally sent a single mms to someone by including a link to google maps in a text message which got expanded into an image.

There's a reason WhatsApp is basically the only messaging people do here - carrier based messaging is an exploitative money trap.

I've seen cheap contracts where SMS is unlimited, but never anything with unlimited MMS (Netherlands).

I actually just checked what I currently pay for an MMS and youfone.nl doesn't even mention it in the price list. Since I have to ask, I guess I can't afford it :-)

my understanding is that mms is part of data, that's how it works here in the US. RCS will also use data whenever it gets implemented.

Oh :O, up here in the north (Sweden) you have to look pretty hard to find a plan without unlimited everything but data.

I mean, imagine a world where your ISP gives you an email address too- doesn't really make sense.

That was completely normal.

I think that was the point: since it's normal that an ISP gives you an email address with webmail and some mega/gigabytes space, why not a messaging service supported by mobile carriers?

And still happens to this day.

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