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I started with home assistant then moved to node red. Both have rich communities and plugins. If you want to do more javascript, use node red.

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I've really enjoyed using node-red together with Home Assistant. Home Assistant manages the connections to devices and allows me to set up a nice UI, while node-red allows me to do more complex automation logic.

node-red is available as a hass.io add-on [1], with the Home Assistant node-red plugin pre-installed

[1]: https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-node-red

I think this is exactly the point of the developers,

First seal to see Then seal to control

Home assistant is the "see" bit. Then you use it (or something else) to control the process

Oh cool! Going to check this out. I've been using the node red dashboard for ui.

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