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The problem is not all of us get to choose the language we work in and sometimes someone picks a language for all the wrong reasons and then you're stuck with it because a rewrite is costly and usually not an option.

So these debates do have some merit.

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You're right, and that is unfortunate. But "people sometimes make the wrong decisions" is a much tougher nut to crack!

I agree that we should have these debates — but on a "is this language acceptable for my use case" level, not a "is this language acceptable for any use cases" level.

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