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> Google is trying something really innovative

This kind of thing has been around for nearly 10 years.

Yup. OnLive tried it with similar results. There are many markets where 10ms - 20ms latency doesn't matter that much, but realtime gaming isn't one of them. It's extremely disorienting to play a game with even the slightest framebuffer lag.

After playing it for about 5-8 hours in the last 2 days, I'd say for a casual gamer like me, there is no perceptible latency. Even in an FPS like Destiny. But again, yesterday was the first time I played a AAA game after two years so maybe I'm just a bit rusty.

You don't know what you're missing until you have tried lower latency.

My regular gaming setup is a 144 Hz monitor with a PC. Everytime I try gaming on a console with a 60 Hz TV I feel like I'm completely drunk because of the noticeable input lag. And that's not even cloud gaming. That's just the Console + TV input lag...

I think Stadia could be super cool for simulation games like Cities: Skylines. The lag isn't nearly as much of a problem and the ability to have an extremely powerful computer simulate many more "agents" would be fantastic.

Surprisingly, OnLive found lag was an even greater problem for applications with a cursor than for games.

Plus your suggestion can be implemented with cloud compute (a backend behind the UI) - it doesn't need to be cloud streaming.

No problem. Just reinvent X11 and let the display server render the cursor.

Your phrasing is dismissive but yes having a game not render its own cursor is pretty common and works quite well.

I think the experience will vary quite significantly, the surface is quite large. For Stadia launch, I created a crowdsourcing reports site and am hoping that we can get a better understanding through others' experiences.

https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/

Really? I played Witcher 3 with ping (to Paperspace machine) of about 40ms, the latency wasn't noticeable at all.

Where? Who else is doing this type of cloud gaming?

Onlive (deceased).

Microsoft (xCloud). Free until it’s stable.

Nvidia (GeForce NOW). Free until it’s stable.

Sony (PlayStation Now).

.. Seriously dude where’ve you been?

And you can add others like Shadow, or you could roll your own using Parsec or Moonlight + a cloud provider like Paperspace or AWS (or even Google cloud).

What is important in case of Shadow, GeForce Now and roll you own, that you buy a PC game that you can access on any PC, not just using a single service (like Stadia, or xCloud).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive

>The OnLive Game Service was launched in the United States on June 17, 2010. The service was launched in the United Kingdom on September 22, 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Now

"PlayStation Now (PS Now) is a cloud gaming subscription service developed by Sony Interactive Entertainment."

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