So you sayyyy that he flew off the handle because he's an SJW or whatever, but because his initial assumption continues to be proven correct as more data is accumulated... it seems like you are wrong that it was an overreaction.
So you sayyyy that he flew off the handle because he's an SJW or whatever, but because his initial assumption continues to be proven correct as more data is accumulated... it seems like you are wrong that it was an overreaction.
That's basically a dismissive personal attack.
One of the most frustrating and crazy-making aspects of participating on HN as openly female is the frequency with which one must politely endure phenomenal open disrespect from people trying to position themselves as pro women's lib while violating the guidelines here concerning how to engage respectfully with other members. The only thing more crazy making is that there tends to be hell to pay should a woman dare to point it out or otherwise try to defend herself.
For me, it is made more bearable by the quiet support of the many people who upvote my comments and posts, flag the worst replies and comment thoughtfully on pieces I submit.
Yes, sexism is very much alive and well. I get to experience it on a daily basis.
It still does little to no good for powerful men to engage in public white knighting and level accusations they cannot backup.
I will note we are reading his tweets on HN, not his wife's. We are discussing the opinions of a powerful man, not a woman. We are reading them largely because he is a powerful man, not because he can back up his assertions.
Discussions of this sort are sometimes a case of "two steps forward, one step back." But as a woman participating in them, they all too often feel like a dystopian bit of theater in which men get to claim virtues they don't have and treat a woman badly while loudly proclaiming themselves against this evil thing called sexism.
I’m sorry you found my comment dismissive and a personal attack. I found your use of the term “sjw” dismissive of the issue, since it’s such a loaded term. So my tone was a bit... glib... in reaction to that.
I also definitely didn’t read your username, so don’t take anything i said to be a reaction your female handle. I definitely assumed a male writer (which is it’s own problem).
It is, in fact, a much larger problem.
To my mind, white knighting is about men playing hero in order to enhance their ego and public reputation as the primary or sole goal such that actually addressing sexism is not only incidental, it's actually counter to their goal.
Being chewed out by you and lectured about how I'm wrong to find any of this offensive amounts to mansplaining.
At every turn, no matter how much men theoretically decry the existence of sexism in the world and pretend to fight against it, when push comes to shove, they expect to be treated with respect by women while not themselves being respectful to women. That expectation amounts to demanding deference from women.
Start by working on treating actual women you are actually interacting with in the here and now with actual respect instead.
That includes not assuming everyone you speak with on HN is male. If you don't know, don't assume. That assumption based on the odds is a fundamental part of sexism, racism, etc. It's a really huge issue.
If you really want to see change in the world, get with the man in the mirror and work on his bad habits. He's the person you have the most control over.
If every man who ever beat his chest about how sexism is a bad thing spent more time working on his bad habits, things would change.
Instead, what happens is every time I comment, multiple people treat me like shit and then come up with justifications for their behavior and reasons why the problem is me and then fail to see the irony in decrying sexism while basically telling me "Shut up, woman." in the same breath.
You can say that again. This place and others would be unrecognizable.