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The Islam and a few other religions realized a similar path: Good muslims have as many kids as they can, you don't need to convert many people if you can just indoctrinate them the easiest way possible: When you are their parent therefor take your words as absolute truths.

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We've asked you many times to stop taking HN threads further into flamewar. If you keep doing it we will ban you.

Religious flamewar is particularly unwelcome. You've done a lot of that on HN in the past. No more please.

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The success of "indoctrination" is highly variable. There are heaps of people out there who have rejected the religion of their parents.

I remember when I was a teenager and I started doubting my mother's Catholicism. I started reading philosophy books and trying to have arguments with her about the existence of God. She was totally unable to engage, she had zero interest in rational arguments for and against religion, she never approached religion with a critical eye, to her it was just "I believed what I was told, why won't you?". Not an approach likely to win over a sceptical teenager.

Is easy to see that the religion of someone depends mostly of where they are born, if someone is born in Saudi Arabia I can make a highly accurate claim -without knowing anything else about them- that they are going to be muslims, of course in some places is easier to be a skeptical teenager but thats a freedom of modern times with modern civilizations, but even there the religion of your parents is a pretty good guess of what your religion will be.

> if someone is born in Saudi Arabia I can make a highly accurate claim -without knowing anything else about them- that they are going to be muslims

What percentage of Saudis are totally convinced Islam is true, as opposed to simply paying lip service to it out of social and legal compulsion? Very hard question to answer, even if someone says "Yes", some of those "Yes" will be honest, others driven by fear. (In Saudi Arabia, atheism and apostasy from Islam both carry the death penalty.)

Where you are born very often determines labels, but there is a big difference between a convinced/devout believer, and a person for whom their religion is just a cultural/ethnic group membership marker.

> Good muslims have as many kids as they can

I don't have the power to downvote but its comments like these that are used by fascists [1][2][3] the world over, sometimes for mass murder [4] and genocide [5] so please be careful how you wield it

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia 3. http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Hindu-nationalist-press:-Musl... 4. https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/review-one-of-us-th... 5. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/mu...

People that want to do harm are many times just looking for an excuse to do so, regardless of them claiming it was just the other way around (as in pretending a logical argument led them approve of violence). So in other words just because some bad people use a fact as an argument does not make it false or not worth sharing.

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