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Allocation of public funds is politics. Tax rates are politics. There are tons of topics that are differing opinions about things, these are politics.

The right of LGBTQ people to exist is not politics, that's human rights. The people who support this are good and right, and the people who oppose it are bad and wrong.

If you don't want to be bad and wrong, don't hold those beliefs. It's very simple, really.

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The language here of "exist" is, I think, a bit of a rhetorical trick which doesn't argue the actual thing under contention.

That's not to say that there aren't good and convincing actual arguments, I just don't think this is one of them.

Look, I'm on your side on this issue, but to say that LGBTQ lack the right "to exist" is liberal hyperbole that ends up being excellent ammunition for smart pundits like Ben Shapiro to rip apart. We gotta be more precise in our language than that.

I don't think it's hyperbolic at all. LGBTQ people should be able to exist in our society the same as straight people. Anything short of that is discrimination and should be called out.

And I don't give a shit what gives grifters like Ben Shapiro "ammunition." He's proven well versed in turning literally anything into ammunition for his bad faith arguments. People like him do not need to be "beaten," they need to be ignored.

"Human rights" are guaranteed by the government unfortunately, because with a monopoly on violence they are the only entity legally able to enforce them. Human rights are politics.

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