'Good' and 'bad' in your sentence are subjective. Millions of mainland Chinese Blizzard customers feel differently on the HK issue than you do.
You can think that they're totally, obviously wrong, but that's politics.
You can think that they're totally, obviously wrong, but that's politics.
The sparse examples I've seen of Chinese people actually being exposed to the reality in HK and being surprised, tells me the state media is being effective in its Ministry of Truth role.
Both were surprised, almost shocked, that the rioting, damage to public and private buildings, and constant street fighting, with deaths on both sides,that they had heard about was completely untrue.
Both seemed to want to temper their comments but still were very surprised that the story they had been told was so different from the things they saw in person.
I don't know what the yellow vest protest is.
Catalonian independence is something I agree with. They've been exploited extremely hard by Spain more or less since they lost their autonomy.
That's exactly what they show.
Whether these groups favored solutions to the fuck-ness are the correct solutions totally tangential to that. When people take to the streets something ain't right.
This, exactly. It takes a lot to get people to resort to civil unrest. I wish it was respected as being that, the last resort of a populace losing faith in it's leadership, and not derided as it is so often as just people who disagree with something. Protests should be a sign of not just disagreement but profound disgust not just for what is being done, but for the processes and the system that permitted it to happen in the first place.
I for one don't weigh issues like this by the number of people who are on side X, I weigh individual people by the positions they take on such issues.
Body of a 15 year old female protestor was found floating naked in the sea. Many speculate she was raped and killed by police.
We do have evidence of torture: HK police (or mainland military acting as such) posing with an individual in a 'tiger chair' and mocking their suffering.
My two points of data involving Chinese residents visiting HK and commenting on the difference between the media stories they had heard, and what they experienced in HK personally, were the basis of my comment.
I am certainly aware that there are about 7 billion different opinions about this topic.
Saying: "I want people to just get along together" doesn't imply that one group should be murdered for that to happen.
As for it being subjective, does that matter? Millions of people are also racist and feel racism -- their racism, anyway -- is A-okay. That doesn't make racism somehow less bad, just because it's technically subjective and some people are fine with it.
HK protestors are for democracy, which is good. The PRC is opposed to democracy, which is bad.
Come on, you should know that the ability to distill complicated issues into slogans is orthogonal to truth.
"Abortion clinic bombers are for life, which is good. Abortion doctors are opposed to life, which is bad."
I don't need to constantly wring my hands about declaring Nazis to be evil asshats, just because they were humans with varying motivations or whatever.
More insightful and deeper analysis may be warranted at times, to be sure, but summarizing them as genocidal, evil maniacs isn't wrong in the least.
I can subjectively say that Nazis are bad.
I can objectively say that Nazi policies had a deleterious effect on Jewish populations.
Similarly, I can objectively say that Beijing's policies have a deleterious effect on human rights as defined by the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
I can subjectively say that the Chinese government is bad.
I assert that, for many (though possibly not all) moral questions, that there is a fact of the matter as to whether a thing is good or bad or neither.
The wumao '50 sent army' is active on twitter, in both Chinese and English.
I don't accuse said posters of being members of a 50 peso army. I assume that their (nationalistic) opinions are just that.
You should extend these same assumptions to China.
The right of LGBTQ people to exist is not politics, that's human rights. The people who support this are good and right, and the people who oppose it are bad and wrong.
If you don't want to be bad and wrong, don't hold those beliefs. It's very simple, really.
That's not to say that there aren't good and convincing actual arguments, I just don't think this is one of them.
And I don't give a shit what gives grifters like Ben Shapiro "ammunition." He's proven well versed in turning literally anything into ammunition for his bad faith arguments. People like him do not need to be "beaten," they need to be ignored.
Gets a bit more complicated when you strip away the drunk modifier.