Americans have tried to impose their values on rest of the world in last 60 years I am not sure why China doing the same is bad at all. At least china has not ruined a dozen countries.
You think China is going to do better? Will it be more fair? The regime in China is willing to hurt anyone who even debates its track record. Will China even allow its failures and excesses to be documented on Wikipedia? Or will it just censor it all, and disappear anyone who complains?
Well... why wouldn't they? China since the time of Deng has been acutely aware of the risk of becoming an imperialist power[1]. Even if they have arguably crossed that line at some points (the South China Sea...), they're clearly attempting to take a markedly alternative path to becoming a superpower.
I think the media tends to portray individuals in the Chinese government as uniquely sinister and amoral, and the assumption is if given the opportunity, they'll commit all the same crimes the West did. But I find this to be quite a cynical view.
Actually, yes, easy to agree with this statement.
Anybody who isn't paid by a government considers all governments as sinister and amoral, nothing unique about it.
I know that I can't expect to do business in the US or Europe if I opine on Jewish sovereignty issues
I know that I can't expect to do business in China if I opine on Chinese sovereignty issues
The result isn't that different just because the former is [mostly] private sector ostracizing and the latter is direct sanctioning from the government. It's cognitively negligent for that specific nuance of private sector deplatforming vs public sector sanctioning to be the line in the sand for people's ideology when the result is the same for doing business in a specific region.
Although Chinese rule of law is totally arbitrary, they've been very consistent that discussion of Chinese sovereignty is not covered and this has nothing to do with any ideology or desire that causes you to say anything about it.
I don't expect this to garner consensus, but the parallels are quite clear. Everyone here already censors themselves to fit with American values on things that greatly disturb them.
And such abuses of power, which have happened without a doubt, are in time recognised and documented as the wrong and shameful excesses they are.
I'd like to agree, but this only happens if you are able to dissolve the administration you disagree with.
Opining on issues of sovereignty being one big exception. Its an unexpected one to Western audiences, coupled with a non-existent appeals process and no distinction between private and public sector in state-planned system.
So you’ll be deplatformed by private sector - just like if you have non establishment views in countries you respect - and also sanctioned by public sector.
The point is that to them it wouldn’t be viewed as freedom of speech not being upheld. Just like if things you did were ruled “obscene” or “hateful” or imminently harmful in the US: there is an appeals process in US but the courts might not support you. Just add “secession” to the list and maybe itll all make sense?