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The difference is that Brietbart isn’t just right leaning. It propaganda for fascists, and a machine of hate, targeting the mental inept.

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It's nonsense, most of the time, but it's not Stormfront. This kind of hyperbole is not helpful.

This is a pretty funny sentiment -- Stormfront in fact links to Breitbart all the time.

If Stormfront linked to HN, then HN is a Stormfront front? This kind of logic is asinine. It's on the level of Nazis wear pants. You wear pants. You're a Nazi??

I didn't claim that BB is a "front" for Stormfront -- just that they're closely associated communities. But if Stormfront linked to HN all the time, yeah I'd probably try to figure out what about HN was so appealing to Nazis and change that.

If you dig into either source, I think you'll find a lot more in common along ideological lines than liking pants.

In days past, true liberalism meant being willing to hear out every point of view, even those you disagree with.

The definition seems to have changed these days. I think it's a mistake. Liberals had higher ground when they allowed every point of view to make their case and thrive or die on their merits.

>It propaganda for fascists, and a machine of hate, targeting the mental inept.

Funny. I would have said the same about nearly every primary left-leaning media outlet.

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological battle. We want thoughtful, substantive comments here, not tit-for-tat flamewars.

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That seems extreme. Isn't it irrational to declare that "every" source that "leans" toward whatever political identity you presumably dislike is "propaganda" and "a machine of hate"? That sounds like the most absurd generalization possible - in fact, it sounds like a product of ignorance and hatred.

Fascism is defined as right wing extremism[1]. Hating hate and haters is different than the hate of otherness stoked by fascists[2].

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

There’s a big difference between the right and left here. If you’re unable to look past your petty lines drawn with colors you’d realize one is a source of shit posting and the other is a source of hate.

It’s ignorance like yours that keeps progress back. But whatever...

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar, and especially please don't cross into personal attack. We ban accounts that do those things. If you'd review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site to heart, we'd be grateful.

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