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In the same vein as those: Conversations with Tyler and Sean Carroll's Mindscape.

https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler

https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/

Whatever you think of Chapo Trap House, and there's a lot to criticize them on, from both the left and the right, when they let Virgil Texas do an interview for a whole episode, it's damned good.

Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman is also a very good interviewer, but her guests are often too niche for me to recommend to a general audience.

Sam Harris is definitely decent, and the podcast is usually pretty long. Very thought provoking. I recommend giving it a listen.

old Charlie Rose episodes as well, although only usually an hour. But good for guests who are currently dead.

Those are great recommendations - thanks! I was already a follower of the Sam Harris podcast, but the other two I did not know about.