Please don't take HN threads on generic ideological tangents. They always become flamewars. For an HN comment—and, by extension, thread—to be substantive on a divisive topic like this requires commenters to stay with the specifics of the article. If you toss those and replace them with nearest-big-generic-thing, discussion quality will plummet. If you do it twice, square that effect.

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