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Apple lied about being in bed with the NSA, too... I don't know why anyone consider Apple much better then Google when it comes to privacy...

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It's still not clear how complicit companies were in the Prism findings.

Specifically, did Apple/Google/etc actively cooperate with the NSA (outside of court ordered warrants), or did the NSA break in, or did the NSA have agents within the companies.

If anyone knows differently and has a source the community would be very interested to hear about this.

can you give a source?

first search result that I found: https://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/apple/is-apple-lying-a... (didn't read it though, but they lied about being part of PRISM)

Do you mean, being a victim of prism? When tech companies found out about the NSA wiretapping unencrypted connections between their datacenters they pretty much flipped out and got serious about security against nation-state attacks.

I don't. PRISM doesn't work how you described it, as far as I know... It is basically a backdoor to Apple for the NSA (so whatever Apple can see, the NSA can also see).

PRISM doesn't work the way you've described it. It ingests data from the FBI's Data Intercept Technology Unit, which handles court ordered wiretaps on individual accounts from Internet communications services. You can see this in the slide Snowden leaked.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-...

https://medium.com/@alecmuffett/how-to-talk-about-prism-and-...

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