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Current cars that have lane centering and steering at all speeds:

* All Acura models

* All Audi models

* BMW 5/6/7/X3/X4

* Cadillac CT6

* Ford Edge

* All Honda models (mostly at higher speed)

* ... and so on.

Source: https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-self-driving-f...

This notion, particularly among Tesla owners, that active lane centering and steering is a Tesla exclusive, is at times wilfully blindered, to the obnoxious.

The last time I went through this was with a Tesla owner who swore that every other car's Blind Spot monitoring sucked, because "only Tesla paid attention to the speed of the car in the blind spot", which is... false. Even my 2015 A4 had adaptive blind spot monitoring.

Most to all mid to high end vehicles have all this stuff. Tesla isn't miraculous in automotive technology. Which isn't to say they haven't done great things. But even reading this list... ugh. Was the ability to watch Netflix or sing "Car-aoke" the most demanded of new features for Tesla owners?

> This notion, particularly among Tesla owners, that active lane centering and steering is a Tesla exclusive, is at times wilfully blindered, to the obnoxious.

Autopilot is more than just "active lane centering and steering" (known as LKAS) Autopilot is a combination of a lot of things (TACC + Autosteer + Auto Lane Change + Auto Lane Keep + NOA etc...)

Autosteer is also way ahead of everything else out there right now. The competition is mainly just TACC and basic LKAS.

For example, I am yet to see so other cars perform in conditions like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d32eo3/autopil...

> Most to all mid to high end vehicles have all this stuff

Yeah mostly an extra option and costs $$$. Basic autopilot and a ton of safety features are FREE on Tesla. It's actually pathetic how other car manufacturers charge for advanced safety features.

> Autopilot is more then just "active lane centering and steering" (known as LKAS) Autopilot is a combination of a lot of things (TACC + Autosteer + Auto Lane Change + Auto Lane Keep + NOA etc...)

Yes, it is. The parent just made a dismissive, " Does it steer and lane center in general, besides when you drift out of lane?", implying that other cars don't.

Other cars also have other features beyond LKAS, too. That's just the focus of this article.

> For example, I am yet to see so other cars perform in conditions like this:

"Removed because there's no way to verify it was actually autopilot performing the maneuver. We are going to make a rule where future dashcam autopilot vids will be removed."

> Yeah mostly an extra option and costs $$$. Basic autopilot and a ton of safety features are FREE on Tesla.

And basic intelligent services and safety are free/standard on most new cars too. While advanced features might cost money, so too does advanced autopilot on a Tesla too, so let's not act like there's that much of a difference. What are some of these "basic safety features" that are free on a Tesla that "other manufacturers [pathetically] charge for"?

Just to follow up on the reddit post, the author of the post submitted another one with an additional video with more angles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d3yx03/round_2...

Thanks! No other car that you can buy right now can do that. I will eat my words if proven otherwise.

as far as I know, when I got my M3, auto lane change was not part of autopilot but has been moved to the full self driving package.

Acura LKAS ≠ autosteer. LKAS turns itself off after 15-45 secs.

The question was genuine, not dismissive, as I haven't heard of many autosteer systems in production cars. There are a handful AFAIK.

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