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I'm sure lots of smart people spent a lot of time and effort working on this, but unfortunately my answer is: Hell no!

> lots of smart people spent a lot of time and effort working on this

That's unfortunately true of a lot of undesirable things. Ad tech, trackers, robocall software, nicotine, wacky inflatable tube guy, large swaths of law and politics...

Wouldn't it be great if we all worked on good things? The whole hill climbing / gradient ascent algorithm this planet is running would work a lot faster.

I don't think wacky inflatable tube guy belongs in that list. :(

Actually, Nicotine (without the rest of the cigarette) actually probably isn't as bad (in particular, might not be addictive).

https://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#nicotine

As someone in the same boat as you, it does seem like Portal webpage is directly acknowledging this sentiment and addressing them[0].

Whether or not this page can be trusted, we'll have to see what people find out (I sure ain't going to pay for it to do that myself).

[0]: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/

In typical facebook style, their answers are all "does not", whereas they should be saying "will never". It is in their nature to shift the goalposts. I wont be getting one, and I'll be making sure noone close to me gets one either.

Because of "move fast and break things" I expect that we will find some unauthorized third party ended up getting access to live audio and video from customer's Portal devices. There will be remediation of the loophole and then we'll all forget about it.

I like how facebook webpage set's cookies local storage and session storage data, tags me in their CMS and show's me message "Private by design"

I feel safe now.

It basically says:

Dear Wife, there was a question about my behavior towards you in the past. Some think I was rough with you but in my defense I have never been convicted of giving you that black eye. Please keep supporting me!

The WhatsApp brand is trusted a lot more and is a lot cooler than the Facebook brand. They'd probably get a lot more success if they used the WhatsApp brand here.

This would actually cause me to abandon WhatsApp. Hard for me to explain why. I guess it's that they've finally obviously decided to monetize WhatsApp.

That face when you thought the dystopian movies of the past were going to be sufficient warning to not go down that road, and instead is led to socializing and conditioning people to normalize and accept the dystopia in their minds.

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