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Just an FYI if you didn't know this- stackoverflow.com has something _similar_. They have the concept of a developer story with the option to link to two different web versions as well as generating a PDF for you (no frills). e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/cv/leetrout

Looks like you've definitely put more effort in to the styles and the thumbnails look nice! I would love to see a small gallery of designs!

I'm -1 on photos on resume since it opens the door to a lot of bias (unconscious or not) so I hope you offer a lot options without photos / icons.

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> I'm -1 on photos on resume since it opens the door to a lot of bias (unconscious or not) so I hope you offer a lot options without photos / icons.

To that end, many HR departments in the US have a blanket policy to reject applications with photos present due to the potential liability of bias or discrimination complaints. Many protected classes[1] can easily be identified via a photo. If they reject every application with a photo, it reduces their attack surface for future lawsuits or complaints.

Potentially less of an issue if you go through recruiters or hiring managers directly, as the recruiters will just redact that part of the resume if needed and hiring managers may not know (or follow) standard HR policies. But you still open yourself up to a risk of rejection purely by inclusion of a picture, irrespective of the content of your resume or capabilities.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group

Thanks, didn't know about the SO one!

Did you try the tool? inside you can see a sample of all designs, or do you mean you would like to see them in the landing? something to keep in mind to update it.

Yeah, I'm with you on the bias with the pictures. I want to work on a way to customize a little bit (like removing picture, icons or changing the color accent) of designs before generating, but I have to think it out before building. That's why in the meantime I included a couple of designs without picture for people to use :D

>I'm -1 on photos on resume since it opens the door to a lot of bias (unconscious or not) so I hope you offer a lot options without photos / icons.

I agree. Interestingly, medical school applications (at least in the US) require photos. I'm really not sure why - it seems messed up.

I think in that way a picture helps - if someone is biased by only looking at a picture, that's a job you don't want.

This is not usually the case. Initial resume reviews are often done by HR, some algorithm, or at least somebody who is not who you will actually be working with on the day-to-day. It is incredibly difficult to root out all of the biases in the job application process and even automated attempts have failed[1]. It is best to avoid any opportunity for bias to even enter the system. To say that you're okay being rejected from a job due to your appearance because you wouldn't want that job anyway is defeatist and hurts the cause of those who are truly disadvantaged and would very much like to be employed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-jobs-automatio...

In what way does it help? All it does is change your first impression from a more objective to subjective one.

This attitude assumes that bias is present only as random individual instances, not consistently across groups. What percentage of jobs are you willing to say that e.g black people should be willing to pass by?

In most cases, they will be biased by the presence of a picture regardless of its contents.

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