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It was not a coup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Car_Wash

I agree, it wasn't a coup.

Lula, who will soon answer for even more corruption charges, was judged by 3 tiers of Brazil's law system, including their "Supreme Court".

Just ask yourselves: why would the owner of Odebrecht, a company that had a revenue of 45 billion USD in 2018, confess under oath that his company had corrupt deals with Lula's party when Lula was the party leader?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-39194395

The Intercept is only releasing small disconnected parts of the recordings that can be milked for clicks. They never released in full and don't plan to. Moro already asked The Intercept to release the conversations in full, in vain it seems.

Where in the article does it link the confession to the trial in question? I read it and don't see a connection.

Judge colludes with prossecution

Judge sends political adversary to prison

Judge now minister in current administration, arguably in power due to his imprisoning the aforementioned political adversary

That Judge was operating at the lowest tier of the Judiciary when he sentenced Lula.

The sentence was appealed many times all the way up to the Supreme Court and along the way, other Judges not only agreed that Lula is a criminal but also increased his initial sentence.

Questioning the sentence and the judges and prossecution involved is totally NOT the same as defending the prossecuted. I don't get how many people jump to this conclusion.

It is virtually impossible to defend Lula. There is enough proof out there to back this.

No. What I am questioning the the timeline of events, that fit too conveniently for the current president and the judge, that is now a minister.

I hope this clarifies your confusion.

Or perhaps the president appointed the judge as Minister of Justice in recognition for putting in jail many of the most powerful politics and businessman in Brazil.

Makes perfect sense, that judge is a national hero.

So do you truly believe that Lula has no responsibility in the Odebrecht case?

I haven't said that anywhere in my post. I have already addressed this kind of misinterpretation in a fellow user's comment

The judge that presided over Lava Jato has been shown to be completely corrupt via the disclosure of his Telegram directions to the prosecutors, which completely violates judicial neutrality. The Intercept Brazil has been covering this story.

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/15/watch-glenn-greenwald-ex...

edit: corrected WhatsApp to Telegram.

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/brazil-lula-operation-ca...

It wasn't WhatsApp, it was Telegram. Check your sources and be careful when spreading misinformation.

Shoot, you're right. My bad.

When you look at these situations you have to realize it may be the case that the victims are criminals. The question is of the lesser evil, as there are no absolutes in such countries... or really any country. American elites often exploit 3rd world countries for unheard of gains, just look at Cheney and Rumsfeld, and Bush and the gains they made off war. In 3rd world countries they often exploit the country itself.

Sure seems like a coup if you look at the behavior of prosecutors colluding to jail their opposition's leaders on trumped up charges.

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