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Yes. Shit happened in the world. There were actual conspiracies. That is not to say that everything that can't be disproven is true.

(You're suggesting guilty until proven innocence logic) (You are welcome to worship the flying spaghetti monster until you can disprove its existence)

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I was pointing to an actual case of state intelligence working with private entities to achieve shady goals. It is well documented, not a "conspiracy". You are simply refusing to read the material I have already provided and indicated (as in the Promis "incident"). Try reading the article and checking its sources before making snarky remarks.

You should reread the thread. I never said that things like that could never happen. Just that there is no reason to believe that that's what happened now.

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