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This is hacker news. I've never said such-and-such's view on capitalism is so damn tedious. That's like a punch, an attempt to sway with no actual content.
> Capitalism is just a codification of people's wants / needs. It's structured demand mixed with some basic contract law to hold people accountable to their own promises. That's it. If you deride capitalism you're already implicitly saying that "what people want" is "bad". By condemning the system you're already implying that even the highest desires of humans aren't good enough.
You've basically set up what you think is a logic tautology for yourself - at this point nothing anyone can say can ever be useful in the context of humanity if it goes against capitalism. That's pretty useless in terms of progress. So it is impossible to have humans without capitalism? And going against that is going against humanity. Interesting take. I don't see any point in arguing that line of logic. You win.
> Capitalism is already based on trust of mankind, since it is based on giving people what they desire, as long as it doesn't infringe on the basic human rights of others. There are other ways to allocate resources and all of them are FAR INFERIOR which has been shown time, and time and time again.
Also, since the wheel has been invented, we shall not try to go further. Thanks for the optimism.
>You've basically set up what you think is a logic tautology for yourself - at this point nothing anyone can say can ever be useful in the context of humanity if it goes against capitalism.
Correct. Capitalism is so efficient it's the sole reason we are able to cram 7B people on this little planet, for better or worse.
Countries that move away from capitalism end up in such poor shape that they essentially collapse, and then you have tons of "economic refugees" everywhere.
It's not impossible to have humans without capitalism, but it's definitely not possible to have 7B of them splitting resources as efficiently as we do now without it.
I guarantee that most people, including the the person I'm responding to, do not make a distinction between market economies and capitalism in the manner you just did. He's talking about Star Trek utopia, nothing grounded in reality or history.