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> When both Bernie Sanders, Ben Shapiro, and __Alex Jones__ happily go on the same podcast and have civil discussions, you're doing something very, very, right.

Those three people have diverse political opinions, but are also basically just 3 white males. Rogan doesn't really provide a platform for "anyone" - only a place for people who (generally) appeal to someone on the heterosexual white male spectrum. Sure, he had some women and minorities on his show, but mostly just white males. That's not diversity.

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It's diversity, just not how most people mean it. Intellectual diversity is extremely important for informed discourse.

> Sure, he had some women and minorities on his show, but mostly just white males. That's not diversity.

Yes, it is. It's just less than you'd prefer.

It's faux intellectualism masquerading as intellectual diversity. Calling it diversity is like saying Subway has a diverse menu. Sure you can get ham, turkey, bacon, or meatballs on 6 different kinds of bread, but at the end of the day it's all just salads and sandwiches.

In total, how many people have been on his show and what are the stats? Do you happen to have that data?

I'm not who you are responding to, but the gender skew is massive. This [1] is just someone on his subreddit doing their own calculations, but the sample size is 1128 men to 68 women. More recently it's like 10 to 1 [2].

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this. One the one hand it's a podcast targeted toward men, which I'm fine with. On the other hand, his whole thing is about open-mindedness so it doesn't seem quite right for him to almost exclusively hear the views of men on his show. I also wonder if he has a harder time getting women to feature because of the demographics of his audience.

I have no idea what the demographic breakdown looks like along other axes as I couldn't find much info.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/al8hxn/voting_tre... [2] https://www.mediamatters.org/legacy/joe-rogan-experience-dis...

>I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this. One the one hand it's a podcast targeted toward men, which I'm fine with. On the other hand, his whole thing is about open-mindedness so it doesn't seem quite right for him to almost exclusively hear the views of men on his show.

What are you not sure of exactly? Also, his guests are also picked via audience polls, someone writing in, or via random twitter interactions, etc.

In any case my point was that if you say "this lacks diversity" its you who has to actually bring the data. Expecting someone else to dig up the data to prove your point would be a bit odd.

You: > Do you happen to have that data? reply

Also You: > Expecting someone else to dig up the data to prove your point would be a bit odd.

I think you're demonstrating one of the aspects of anti-intellectualism prevalent in the Rogan community. You expect other people to provide data and evidence to change YOUR mind, but you won't provide data or evidence supporting your own position.

I have no "position", what are you even talking about? You introduced a claim in this conversation. It would be nice to have the data to back it up, but sure, you can feel or think whatever you want. If you don't care to defend your opinion or views, then it doesn't matter at all, and this thread is not really going to be productive for either of us.

Your "position" seems to be that my claim was incorrect. It's patently obvious that Rogan's guest list is primarily white males. Provide your own data if you feel otherwise. You seem to hold others to a higher standard than what you apply to yourself. You're right that you don't care to defend your opinion and this isn't a productive thread. Another user spoonfed the evidence to you and you are still trying to argue against reality while providing zero data.

Sorry, I don't wish to continue this pointless discussion. Goodbye and have a nice day.

It's pretty easy to find a list of his guests and compile that if you are interested.

Have you done that?

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