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On any other planet the death of the bar industry would be hailed as a victory against alcoholism and date rape.

Ignoring the context is also common on any other planet? Bars don't cause alcoholism, bars don't do date rapes and spoons don't make people fat, but you intentionally ignore facts and play it with your political agenda. Should we close down everything that has any potential for bad things? Where is the button to shut down the planet?

Of course we shouldn't force them to shut down, but if you told me tomorrow that McDonald's was bankrupt I wouldn't shed any tears.

Is it true that some users of bars are alcoholics? Definitely. Is it true that some users of bars want to participate in date rape? Definitely. Is it likely that these users represent even a small percentage of overall bar patrons? No. We don't need to shut down an entire industry to protect a tiny subset of users.

Agreed, it takes a special kind of asshole to run a bar while "[his] own family has been afflicted by alcoholism."

> Richard had spent untold hours trading stories with friends, cementing connections with them, with the space, and with the city outside. A few people had gathered to continue their remembrance. All changed utterly, everything constant, I ordered a drink from the bar and sat down.

Yea, you killed him. Infuriating.

And it takes a special kind of asshole to be a professional grave digger when his entire family will die and be buried. Same kind of illogical argument.

I read this earlier and was sort of speechless.

Now I can't help myself, and must point out that a grave digger in no way contributes to the death of the buried.

Beware the acute and chronic cognitive effects of alcohol abuse.

Nor a bartender is contributing to the death of people, even when they drink themselves to death. Let's see where is the personal responsibility of each of the people involved.

I saw this kind of logic trying to blame gun manufacturers, but it should extend to car sellers (there are many more deaths in traffic), knife sellers, soft drink sellers (diabetes kills), etc. No, they are not contributing to someone's death just because they sell them something that person uses and eventually die.

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