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I'm curious about your measured pressure drop between the pressure at the pump, and the pressure at the group head. Since coffee machines are low flow and travel through a short distance of presumably stainless steel pipe, my quick calculations indicate a minimal pressure drop compared to the expected 9 bar of pressure used to pull a shot.

Temperature is another kettle of fish as you have demonstrated.

The problem is that your mental model of how a boiler based espresso machine works is not how they are actually wired.

Here is how they actually work: 9 bar of pressure are generated between the pump and a flow constrictor which is placed before the boiler, pumping cold water into the boiler. This cold water then displaces the water in the boiler, which then gets pushed to the espresso.

Thus, the final pressure depends on the compressibility of the steam (or airspace) in the boiler. In practice, you get about half a bar less at the espresso than the pump got behind the boiler. But, the real numbers depends on lots of factors, many of which are invisible.

Hey love the machine! So curious about it.

I've built a couple cocktail mixer machines for personal usage in the past and always wanted to build an espresso machine. My main fear was dealing with almost boiling water and pressure, that kinda scared me a bit. Do you have any tips, links or just fun stories about developing machines like that that you could share? :D

There are lots of people who have "Arduinoed" their coffee machines, especially the Rancilio Silvia, which is an ugly-but-good-value machine, which can be PIDed and hotwired. That's a good place to start.

Big fan of yours dude. I'm waiting to replace our Rocket Giotto, hooked in to a tmd-56 w/ Artisan (that I use for thermal profiling into Artisan), with one of your machines. Keep up the awesome work!

The price ($2,500+) seemed very high. I was wondering if there are specific technical issues that required the bump up in pricing.

Stupid question but I didn't see it asked or answered:

Does your rig make good tasting espresso!

While tastes are subjective, and there are a lot of variables involved, the Decent espresso does pull a solid shot. The reviews so far are pretty positive.

How does this design compare to a Synesso?

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