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I am not familiar with this domain, anyone mind answering: What does this mean for amateur radio practitioners, and what does this mean for the greater internet/communications industry?

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All questions are answered at https://www.ampr.org/amprnet/ (which was submitted several times but didn't make the front page).

Seems like that site is down. Here's the archive.org link for those interested:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190719150143/https://www.ampr....

Even this link isn't working for me, unfortunately. Something's up with archive.org.

They had a /8, out of that they sold a /10 to probably one of the big 5.

They never got close to using the whole /8 and currently allocated about a third of it.

They are using the money for grants and scholarships and perhaps an endowment to fund them perpetually (and just being cynical, probably paying the board who made this decision some of that money as well)

IPs and blocks have been allocated for decades to people for amateur radio related things and will continue to do so without any changes.

> They are using the money for grants and scholarships and perhaps an endowment to fund them perpetually

But that's outside the scope of what most in the amateur radio community would expect from caretakers of AMPRnet.

It has been nearly impossible to get an allocation from them as a ham, if they even bother responding at all, so i don't buy this. This is an obvious money grab.

> ... they sold a /10 to probably one of the big 5.

Yep, the last /10 went to AWS.

What sort of money are we talking about here?

44.192.0.0/10 was sold which equals 4,194,304 IP addresses. At $20.00/address that comes out to a cool $83,886,040.

Using this to base the IP address cost: https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales

None of the big guys are paying this much, especially for blocks this size. $5-10/IP.

Nice to see they get backroom deals for about 0.15% of the ip addresses on the internet, AND massive discounts.

A volume discount isn't a backroom deal. Unless you think for some reason the group that controls 44.0.0.0/8 is beholden to Amazon or big tech for some reason.

No, but the deal itself is certainly extremely suspect and with a total lack of transparency for a supposedly public resource.

Except we will never actually know...

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We will know because they will have to report the income on their public tax return.

Market rate is 60-90 million. $25+/IP is reasonable given that it's a contiguous block, legacy, etc.

Several million dollars[1].

[1] https://www.ampr.org/amprnet/

$80M?

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