.... Which has nothing to do with my initial argument, but is actually still wrong. Just looking at the inner Chinese market, there are way less regulations to a point where competition between companies is much stronger, almost ruthless, which ironically can be considered more capitalist than our overly regulated markets. But I understand that you're exactly the kind of person outlined in my original comment, just not wanting to see it and trying to invalidate the enemy in any way possible, as if that makes the problem go away. every county has at some point "stolen" technology from another, more or less directly supported by their government. But that doesn't change the situation we're in now.