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I find these articles incredible, but then I remember I work and live on a Mac. And I can't wait to pay 5K for the content of one of those articles published 2 years ago.

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Same here. I'd love to build a Ryzen box, and actually I'll do so for gaming, but my primary computer has to run macOS and unfortunately that requirement comes with a significant price tag, in addition to outdated hardware.

You can build a kick-ass Mini-ITX Ryzen box for less than a Mac monitor stand. Why not both?

As I said, I do. I have a separate gaming PC, which gets occassional use and will be upgraded to the Ryzen 3000 series later this year. I wish I could do the same with a reliable, legitiamte macOS system - the value is just incredible over in the non-Apple PC world.

Can’t you do hackintoshes with Ryzen?

Not without a lot of messing around. With Intel you can pretty much just straight install macOS + Clover + FakeSMC and you're golden. With Ryzen you have to start messing around with custom kernels, which means updates will break things and also means a lot of programs won't work.

Last I checked a lot of progress had been made, but you're unable to run any 32-bit applications and some software such as the Adobe Creative Suite simply won't run.

I too thought it was hard, but recently found this that supposedly makes it way easier: https://kb.amd-osx.com/guides/HS/

I'm considering a new ryzen hackintosh build in july!

Going to give it one, single try... then I'm on to Linux as my primary. Will have a Windows VM for some work, and may keep a mac VM as well. Most of the stuff I do works fine in Linux, and it really looks like Manjaro and Pop_OS! have made a lot of progress beyond the general dev stuff I work on (mostly via Docker/Linux anyway).

I worry a bit about stability...

Oh yea, I wouldn't want to do that. I use a hackintosh but with an intel CPU and it just works flawlessly except for the whole NVidia GPU holding me back.

Well, I also want it to be reliable. This is my main computer, my daily driver, after all.

With VM

I did it, and it's great. It's possible to get Ryzen + GTX 2070 for a price of a Mac Mini. Of course it's a big ugly box, but it plays latest games without a hitch, even on 120hz/1440p "Ultra" graphics settings.

Apple hardware functions as a software protection dongle. If you want to use Apple software you must buy a dongle.

Except if you hackintosh

> And I can't wait to pay 5K for the content of one of those articles published 2 years ago.

Err, "can't wait" as in "it will be awesome when it arrives" or as in "I'm not going to wait for that, stupid Apple"?

I think the OP sarcasm was obvious.

I thought it was likely, but I also thought the wording ("for the content of one of those articles") was weird enough that I was confused. I think what was meant was "And I can't wait to pay 5K for the hardware described in one of those articles published 2 years ago."

Also, I would be a lot more confident in labeling it sarcasm if I didn't believe there were plenty of people actually eagerly awaiting new Apple hardware just like that.

In any case, Poe's law strikes again.

It was sarcasm. Sorry for the confusion. English is not my native tong.

It’s “tongue”! Just kidding...but it is :D

I think the 2 years ago was what makes it obvious for me. I'm not a native speaker either.

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