And you are being downvoted for what is basically a well articulated version of a fairly uncontroversial view, and not far from a reality in many developed countries :-)
Maybe HN isn't really the target audience. Americans and/or rich people, in my experience, tend to get very knee-jerkily nervous around anything that reeks of centralised, socialized income/benefits/healthcare.
You both should at least admit that the comment you're talking about is not, in fact, getting downvoted.