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I am nervous this means Apple will hold back features from iOS to get people to buy an iPad. For example, they announced the new Files app with iPadOS but there is no reason that shouldn't all be available on an iPhone.

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There are already features that are available only for iPads. This only gives a name for the version that runs on iPads.

True. I am just wary of the line being drawn on the conservative side.

Edit: wary not weary lol

Wary. I think the battle on this is already lost, but "weary" means tired, and is pronounced "weery"

FWIW Garner classifies this error as "stage 1" (rejected) in a recent edition, so we're still safe for a while, at least in professional writing. However, I do see this mistake more often than I see either word used correctly in non-professional Web writing, to include much work that is paid, but neither written nor edited at anything like a professional level.

Garner attributes the error—among pros, anyway—to closeness to "leery". I'd guess it's more often just bad phonemic awareness when committed by the general public, though.

As a non-native speaker I'm afraid that some day I'll need a dictionary of homophones to decode written English.

These two aren't homophones, but (in American English, anyway) "weary" does sound like "weird" rather than like "wear", while "wary" sounds like "wear" but not like "war", so it's kind of worse.

I for one am wary of that same thing. But of course I'm also weary of it, all things considered. Funny that.

iOS is getting files and gamepad support: https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-13-preview/features/

It specifically says "PS4" and "Xbox One S" controllers.. I hope that just means "Bluetooth" and they're not doing some exclusive BS where only those two specific controllers will work.

I have a 30$ 8BitDo Bluetooth controller (that works on PS4, Xbox, Switch, Windows, MacOs) that I'd love to just throw in my travel bag with my iPad when I'm on the road.

iOS has had files and gamepad support for years. The new things announced today are:

- SMB fileshare and SD card access in Files on iOS.

- PS4 and Xbox One gamepad support for the HomePod & iOS.

iOS had MFi gamepad support. It has never had general gamepad support. Not sure it does even now. At least now you can have a gamepad that will work with iOS and all Mac games. Most Mac games do not work with MFi controllers.

I was also wondering how Apple will decide which feature will go to iPadOS vs iOS. The files app is a great example. Will there be a new trickle down path from iPadOS to iOS?

How is the Files app a great example? It's available on iOS already.

Indeed. I really hope the SMB native support in Files comes to iOS. For example, I currently use Documents by Readdle, but I would love to eliminate that step.

Same. I was shocked earlier this year when I opened up the files app and there was no ability to connect to server

It goes the other way as well. There are already a bunch of iPhone-only features in iOS.

Like the calculator app.

This blew my mind when I realized it. I spent a solid like 10 minutes looking through the AppStore and my folders for the original. Why???

And the Health app and parts of Apple Pay and all the Apple Watch support stuff.

This one boggles my mind. I probably wouldn't need it often, but there are some times where I wish I had it handy instead of needing to pick up my phone. (And without needing to install a 3rd party app.)

You can type equations into the search field and it will give you the answer.

Couldn't you do that on a phone, also?

1 - Hit [command] + [spacebar]

2 - Type in your math problem.

Similar to google search in capability as far as I've seen.

Files is an iOS feature. It was added in iOS 11. This new update just has new cosmetic features like the column view. I'm sure the external drive and server connections work on iOS as well.

This is because iPadOS is just a marketing name for iOS 13. iPadOS still runs the same Springboard as iOS and is referred as iOS internally.

Indeed there's no reason those shouldn't be available on iPhone, so thankfully they are. The name is just marketing; if in doubt, just see what's new in iOS in general.

Bigger issues to me are the inabilities of iPads compared to iPhones: no watch pairing, no phone call or sms support, et c.

iPhone is Apple's biggest product by a large margin and it's in a super competitive space. There's no way they'll hold back features that reasonably work on it.

Side note: checking in from Bonnet Shores here!

iPhone doesn’t have a screen large enough or a USB connector…how would you use the “new Files app”?

It has a USB connector with the appropriate adapter.

Pixel 3A comes with a USB C to A (female) adapter in the box which makes it seem like this kind of thing is going mainstream.

You'd use the new Files app the same way you'd use the current Files app … USB disks aren't the only way to use it.

Seriously, am I being gaslighted here? The Files app is already available on iOS 12, I think it was introduced in 11, and it's definitely on iPhones.

Everybody talking about it like a hypothetical iPad-only app is seriously confusing me.

Sandisk has a good product for that: https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand

It has both lightning and USB connections.

To access SMB shares on the go for one, which is something else they announced in the app.

While I don't think that those necessarily mean it can't work well on iPhone, it does bring up an important point about feature differences between iPad and iPhone, and one that Apple surely considers: They are _different_ devices, and are _different_ sizes. Some functions will work better on one device than on the other, and vice versa, because of this. This is why it makes sense that iPadOS is now a thing, and why features might exist with one and not the other. It shows that Apple is carefully designing the OS for the different devices.

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