And for the downvoters: sorry, but discrimination is discrimination.
Avocado toast boy never kept a woman under his thumb or made people use a different water fountain. Why should he be penalized for what someone else's grandparents did?
Avocado toast boy never kept a woman under his thumb or made people use a different water fountain. Why should he be penalized for what someone else's grandparents did?
That they are still winning with a handicap doesn't change the fact that they are being penalized.
Fighting bias with bias is not as good as fixing root causes, but it works in more places.
Far less subjective compared to adding points when you have no idea what a person's back-story is.
Lots of subjective hiring practices are terrible.
I'm not convinced that you're asking in good faith, but I'm going to try to be optimistic and answer anyway.
Most of us can agree that there are demographics who have been systematically disadvantaged and that we live in an economy where advantages are often passed from one generation to another. This cascading injustice is similar to a relay race, where cheating in the first leg of the race affects the outcome in the last leg of the race.
In a race you'd be able to disqualify the team that cheated regardless of whether all of the members were complicit, but we can't disqualify white people from the economy. It's also unacceptable to ignore the injustice, as it continues to perpetuate those disadvantages into the future.
Instead, the idea is to try to counter those disadvantages by focusing on inclusivity rather than optimizing for people who want to keep the advantages that they've inherited through injustice.
To answer your question: the things that you feel are being taken away from you were never yours to begin with.
I'm not claiming that all implementations of affirmative action are perfect, but I think progress is being made in the right direction. I think that moving to a system that took income or class into account could be an improvement, but I haven't seen enough research to have a strong opinion here. Maybe you could point me to a few resources?
> And your metaphor that it would somehow be justified to "disqualify" white people is bonkers.
I think you're confused. I said "we can't", not "we should" or "it would be justified".
> We're NOT teams. I'm not on "team white" and anyone, regarding of race who thinks I'm on it is on the opposite team, because my actual team is my beliefs.
You're responding to words I haven't said. Of course we're not teams, I didn't suggest anything of the sort.
Your actual team, at least the one that matters, is your class. If you have to punch a clock to survive, you're working class. If your money works for you, you're investment class.
And here you have it sorted out for generations! Ponder that very carefully.
In situations where this is the case, these guys are more or less slaves, I would expect to see this exact same dynamic in ancient Rome