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Can you share videos that prove all this stuff? The more people shown in the re education camps, the better. Seriously, please post 10-20 links to videos so we can share them!

Reports are going to have people claiming one thing and others denying that thing. This is a really serious human rights concern involving MILLIONS of people. It has been going on starting with Falun Gong since 2000 or earlier, then Uyghurs, Tibetans etc. It’s the word of the Chinese government vs all those groups. So it’s pretty clear this stuff is happening, but only because so many disparate groups are claiming this.

But there is nothing like VIDEO to make clear what exactly is happening. We need to have these videos in order to share them. Same as Tienemen Square videos.

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I guess it's not very safe to show up at a camp with a camera, looking like a journalist from outside China.

In the age of cheap smartphones and the allways existence of desperate people who have nothing left to loose, I think its highly unlikely that videos of such camps could not get out. Not if it is on that scale. (just refering to the argument, I did not check whether the camps exists or videos)

On the other hand, such camps would not look much different from prisons, so I doubt you can expect KZ style pictures.

Edit: just wondering, is my argument really that bad, or am I dealing with patriotic bite reflexes?

I don’t care who does it. There are cellphones everywhere today. Millions of detainees, I am sure there are videos somewhere!

I think that the following devices would be REALLY useful not just for human rights but proving what happened in an altercation:

A tiny device that can record video or video, perhaps embedded in the clothing or body of a person.

The stream is ENCRYPTED AND THEN transmitted to local towers or wifi or whatever, and finds its way to some servers. Maybe via a DHT routing.

Anyway, these servers store the encrypted data and the keys are generated by Shamir Secret Sharing so 3 or more parties can come together and decrypt the video.

In countries with rule of law, this could be used to figure out rapes on campus, by having such cameras in every dorm and bedroom. The keys would be obtained during a court case only.

In human rights cases, the keys would be generated by human rights organizations.

So this will eliminate “peeing toms” and “spying” by having warrants for decrypton of a video strean, and curation by trusted agencies what gets shown to the public.

What a bizarre comment, these camps have been widely reported and nobody serious disputes their existence. But hey, here you go:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chinese+internment+camps

I didn’t say they weren’t widely reported.

I asked for the best VIDEO evidence from inside, showing the most people and smoking guns

It’s the difference between hearsay and video evidence. Like when people say the IDF harasses people in the West Bank, or cops kill unarmed Black people, and people dispute it one way or the other. But having video reveals exactly WHAT is happening. The more context for the video, the better.

I bet that's what all of the Americans and Europeans we would consider "Nazi sympathizers" said about the camps in Germany, too.

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