It's not invisible. We know. But we don't feel a sufficient motivation to do something about it.
I have tons of motivation to do something about the largest totalitarian regime. Just tell me where to go and what to do.
I woulnd't assume that quite a few people don't feel this way. The issue isn't lack of motivation. It's the lack of any sort of leverage over a giant totalitarian foreign government.
I'm not taking a moral stand here. I don't think anybody not doing anything is a bad person. But let's not pretend ignorance and inability. We don't even try. Reading HN is much more comfortable, besides life has many challenges already.
If you offer me (1G$/50yr=) 20 million dollars a year to spend eight hours a day trying to find a solution to this, then sure, I'll take that job and do it to the best of my ability. I don't expect to succeed, but as long as the paychecks clear I'll keep working.
If you offer me a billion dollars contingent on finding a solution, I'm going to ignore you, just like I ignore the people offering a million dollars for a solution to P vs NP, or XX million dollars for correctly predicting which six balls they pull out of a basket.
I wouldn't spend 100% of my time on that singular social problem, but yes.
But that has nothing to do with reality on account of you having not given me any money, and me not having enough resources to quit my job and fund such initiatives against one of the largest economic powers in the world.
Going there and spreading that message seems like a bad idea.
What's more, you replied without read my comment (or misread?). I said I'm a Chinese in the first sentence. I would like to have conversations with people who are serious about the matter but even on HN where people are rational and logical in most other topics are not showing their best when it comes to topics about China.
Anyway here's one guy who learned chinese: https://www.youtube.com/user/jaredfaa (he's a bigger influencer on bilibili coz youtube is unfortunately blocked in China)
here's a guy went around the world and passed China without knowing Mandarin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjI1O11S8KY (one of his several vidoes)
Anyway, ignorance promotes fear. Understand the problem first before propose solutions.
I mean no disrespect to Mandarin itself.
Anyway here's a Chinese social media site with many people working in SFBA. I guess you can have more access to places like that if you know a bit Mandarin.
Not that I won't try again, but I know it's an ordeal for me which takes lots of time I already don't have right now. I've taken and failed two separate language courses, not due to a lack of trying.
Learning foreign languages seems quite hard for me due to the nature through which I learned to read. I taught myself to read between age 2-3 and kind of just coasted on that for a long time, since I had mostly subpar public education.
But failing at multiple foreign languages has taught me the need to step back and have a better understanding of language in general before tackling it again.
But Mandarin is so far left field from other popular languages. Learning the Greek and Cyrillic alphabet was hard enough. I have severe ADHD and memory problems. I have used Anki for a long time and spaced repetition alone takes up a lot of my time. And the amount of symbols to learn for Mandarin is staggering.
Last year I took up memory training after studying the techniques of a few memory masters. I'm doing everything I can to improve my memory but just skipping to Mandarin right now is not a smart or efficient use of my time.
If you prefer to start right now, there are also plenty of Chinese people desperate for someone to practice their English with, e.g. on https://www.tandem.net/
It seems like a lot of people with moderate computer skills are fulfilling this role. My skills and time would be wasted on such an initiative.
I do think it's good advice to contact some people who are already involved, though. They would best know what else needs to be done.
Honestly, most comments here misunderstood the problem to the point the purposed solutions are ridicules. Go talk to Chinese people living near you. Ask them why things are operating like this. Plenty live in SFBA/Seattle as far as I know.
I don't know any Chinese people living near me. I don't know many people here at all. I would definitely like to talk to people close to the issue.
Right now it's still more of a civilized sparring.
The rest of the world could easily get by by moving production lines and factories to Vietnam and Indonesia and South America, etc, while paying a flat “tax” in increased prices across the board for cheap products.
The USA at least is doing something which respects their sovereignty and reduces their power.
Reports are going to have people claiming one thing and others denying that thing. This is a really serious human rights concern involving MILLIONS of people. It has been going on starting with Falun Gong since 2000 or earlier, then Uyghurs, Tibetans etc. It’s the word of the Chinese government vs all those groups. So it’s pretty clear this stuff is happening, but only because so many disparate groups are claiming this.
But there is nothing like VIDEO to make clear what exactly is happening. We need to have these videos in order to share them. Same as Tienemen Square videos.
I think that the following devices would be REALLY useful not just for human rights but proving what happened in an altercation:
A tiny device that can record video or video, perhaps embedded in the clothing or body of a person.
The stream is ENCRYPTED AND THEN transmitted to local towers or wifi or whatever, and finds its way to some servers. Maybe via a DHT routing.
Anyway, these servers store the encrypted data and the keys are generated by Shamir Secret Sharing so 3 or more parties can come together and decrypt the video.
In countries with rule of law, this could be used to figure out rapes on campus, by having such cameras in every dorm and bedroom. The keys would be obtained during a court case only.
In human rights cases, the keys would be generated by human rights organizations.
So this will eliminate “peeing toms” and “spying” by having warrants for decrypton of a video strean, and curation by trusted agencies what gets shown to the public.
On the other hand, such camps would not look much different from prisons, so I doubt you can expect KZ style pictures.
Edit: just wondering, is my argument really that bad, or am I dealing with patriotic bite reflexes?
I asked for the best VIDEO evidence from inside, showing the most people and smoking guns
It’s the difference between hearsay and video evidence. Like when people say the IDF harasses people in the West Bank, or cops kill unarmed Black people, and people dispute it one way or the other. But having video reveals exactly WHAT is happening. The more context for the video, the better.