I root for them, absolutely. But their stuff carries a premium and is technically limited, generally fulfilling a novelty space.
The big win here is the visual stuff, but again I'm not sure that justifies the price.
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If they treat people paying 1300 USD for a device like that, can’t imagine how they’ll handle OP-Z owners.
I love the all-in-one idea and getting away from the DAW but it feels too risky to me.
Can't remember if they covered shipping, but they were super communicative through the whole process.
This was a few years ago, so maybe that's changed!
They are building "fun" interfaces but the korg montron's are more a "novelty".
I'd say that the OP-1 is probably one of the better designed musical instruments in the recent past.
OP-1 has a lot of options that make you feel like you're making music, when in fact you're trapped in an endless round of "What happens if I...?" inside the feature space.
Hence the novelty tag. They're not particularly productive instruments, but they can be a fun way to pass an hour or two.
A software environment like Max, PD, or Reaktor is much less limited. But the learning curve is much steeper, and the instant gratification factor much lower.
And then there are the code-based environments like Supercollider, in which you can implement the OP-1 sequencers and synths with a few lines of code, and easily create your own variations - but the learning curve for non-coders might as well be vertical, and it's not shallow even for experienced coders.
I think comparing any physical keyboard synth/sequencer to the full desktop software is going to make the device look like a toy in comparison. It's apples and oranges in terms of available power and interface and really purpose.
made this in bed at 3am last night...like any device people do not put in the work to learn how to use it musically, then claim its a toy. theres tons of threads from people like you on muffwiggler talking about how the minilogue is a toy. nah man, you're just talking out your elbow.
you should read up on why Bon Iver ditched bringing his guitar with him on his travels, and replaced it with an op-1.
I think the limitations of the OP-1 are one of its strengths. Anyone can dive into it and start making music. And once you really learn the device, you can do some really great stuff with it. I think any artist is made better by limitations. It's when creativity shines.
That being said, I think it's current price point is a bit high. I got mine for $899 which I thought was steep, I was literally the last order before they raised the price to $999, then $1099, and now $1299. It's wonderfully built, a lot of fun, but $1300 is a lot. I can't say that I would pay that much for it.
You should explore the machine if you get the chance or watch some of the stuff people do with it. It is a great creative instrument.
in addition, the op-z is not just a sequencer. even if you considered it just a sequencer, it can sequence multiple audio tracks, cv tracks, and a video track.