Could you please link to the particular statistics you believe to be the most relevant to this discussion instead of just making insinuations.

How are crime statistics relevant? If anything, you should look at recidivism. Crime statistics have more to do with other things in society than the 'philosophy' of prisons.

Violent crimes has been stable for about a decade. About 100 people are killed in Sweden per year[1], about 250 are killed in Detroit per year[2].

Comparing different crime statistics between countries is very dicey BTW. Sweden has the broadest definition of rape in the world and the most comprehensive support systems for the victims. Saudi Arabia officially has 0.3 rapes per 100 000 people, where the victims can get punishments worse than the perpetrators. [3]

[1] https://www.bra.se/statistik/statistik-utifran-brottstyper/m... [2] https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2019/... [3] https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-stat...

Our US friend like to maintain their utopian views of Europe; don't distract them with facts.