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I don't think many would consider Bayer to ever be a "victim".

Interesting that on Bayer's wikipedia page [2] there is no link to the Contaminated haemophilia scandal [1]. In fact Bayer's wikipedia page seems to have been "cleaned". The "Controversies" section is gone.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer

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Wikipedia page cleaning seems to be the norm these days. There are some very peculiar Wikipedia editors who engage in a mix of seemingly-pertinent, well-sourced information removal and spurious mud-slinging.

There was the whole "Philip Cross" affair which seemed to be backed up by prominent figures in the Wikipedia community.[0]

Unfortunately, even the talk pages seem to be being sanitized now.

[0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44495696

It's naive to pretend it's not a battlefield.

Interesting. In the German version of the article [0], you see the list of criticism, including the contaminated haemophilia scandal.

[0]: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_AG#Kritik_und_Skandale

If only companies/countries/individuals without a scandal or controversy in their history could become a 'victim', the newspapers would be amazingly empty...

It's in the Product/overview section, but it don't explictly say that Bayer was responsible.

The controversies section was removed in 2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bayer&diff=659392...

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bayer&diff=next&o...

Despite any judgements, they are a victim in the sense that a perpetrator launched an attack on them.

Wether that attack is justified or not I'll not comment on

The information instead exists in the Products -> Overview section. The entire section is mostly dedicated to listing controversies and one has to read past these controversies to find out what products are sold by the company. Products that include one of the company's top selling drugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin which is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. The Products -> Overview section is very pessimistic in its description of products produced by the company, which doesn't seem fair when balanced against products which are deemed essential to world health.

I've also updated information on contaminated haemophilia blood products in Wikidata[1]. Wikidata is not limited by article lengths and the need to prioritise the layout of sections and information in the same way that Wikipedia is.

[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q928528

Don’t forget their newest ongoing issue with Primodos in the U.K.! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primodos

https://news.sky.com/story/primodos-drug-linked-to-birth-def...

Of course Bayer is still insisting that everything is kosher. Well, not kosher, their response to that was creating Zyclon B when they were still part of IG Farben. It would seem that their commitment to morality remains broadly unchanged.

It's nonetheless concerning what information an attacker may be trying to access.

Bayer is a filthy company that should have been shut down after being a key Nazi collaborator along with IBM, Siemens and others. Sure, they might be the victim of some cyber warfare, but in aggregate, they will never be a victim in my book, just a giant enterprise built on murder.

https://ahrp.org/auschwitz60-year-anniversary-the-role-of-ig...

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