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Vim needs to come with its own package management and all languages should have a single-script which setup their features. I don't want to install 20 different packages manually and not have them work

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Why? There's a few high quality package managers already. Creating yet another one is not a great idea. vim-plug is what I use and it works perfectly fine.

For a more complete vim experience out of the box, check out spacevim.

As of version 8, it does:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vim/vim/master/runtime/doc...

https://github.com/akiyosi/gonvim

There you go. Dein is integrated and has GUI.

I'd like Vim to come with a hosted account feature with password, so you have the same .vimrc no matter on what machine you are working. It would also allow easy copy+pasting of text across machines.

I know, you can set this up yourself e.g. through git, but this is an extra step to take whenever you have to configure a new machine.

vim-plug is another. However I think the bigger point being made is that there is no standard one, which means each package manager makes things more confusing, not easier.

https://vim-bootstrap.com/

Interesting. But the PHP/JS/neovim file I got fails to install vim-plug.

There's Vundle and Pathogen.

No vundle for this one.

Out of curiosity I checked out if Vundle would give me YouCompleteMe but... vundle installation of YouCompleteMe just failed with `The ycmd server SHUT DOWN (restart with ':YcmRestartServer').YCM core library not detected; you need to compile YCM before using it. Follow the instructions in the documentation.`.

I love Vim but I have stopped trying to build a cathedral for it.

Excuse me but the error you are getting makes it clear that you have to compile YCM before using it.

I thought vundle can install any plugin if it is hosted on Github?

Vundle is really neat and so is vim. But some plugins requires external binaries or services to function and that's when a vim packager stops being helpful and you have to take extra steps. Sometimes it's just an apt-get install something or curling a bin to ~/.bin but sometimes it needs more tweaking and fiddling. In my opinion that makes your vim installation more fragile and less portable.

Maybe we'll soon run vim in docker.

Vundle does install YCM, but you need to execute some more steps (compile the ycmd server), which vundle doesn't do, and YCM doesn't work without the daemon compiled.

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