I wouldnt be able to say why anyone would want to be working at oracle these days.
What compelling reason does oracle even have to attract talent?
(Im not being snide, seeious questions)
What compelling reason does oracle even have to attract talent?
(Im not being snide, seeious questions)
I'd have loved to take a job at a local startup, but of the limited local options for my skillset, none had salaries that would pay the mortgage....
They also pay very well, because Oracle doesn't have a great reputation.
The work is good, with a TON of room for growth and leadership.
The goal is ambitious (take on the big players) and well funded.
The people are good. Worklife is good.
They are also still hiring.
Their competition at the low end is Google, which doesn’t bode great on quality, and with AWS and Azure they’re fighting on quality and against strong enterprise groups. Not sure who would predict that would go well, but it’s a big market and I suppose they have to try.
I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future.
Because Oracle still has an extremely large customer base, and an exceptionally good and extensive sales organisation that's really good at selling stuff to people.
The enterprise market is still not that well tapped by existing cloud providers. Look at the kinds of sales figures enterprise serving companies pull in, and consider that only a smaller fraction of them have moved to the cloud.
Anecdote: When OCI was announced ("Oracle Bare Metal Cloud") about 2 1/2 years ago, the staff who were there launching it at the Oracle conference had CIOs and the like coming up to them, even then, saying "So what really is this 'cloud' thing"
> I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future.
Succeed or fail, it's still interesting work. It pays well. Flexible on hours. Good co-workers, good sense of direction. Lots of interesting problems to solve. None of the bullshit "work everyone to the bone" that I kept seeing in AWS. Good opportunities to make a difference.
In all honesty, I was burned out at AWS and thought "Well.. I've put up with absolute hell in prior tech jobs, and have built up a reasonable resume. I can always move on if it turns out to be hell". My expectations were pretty low. I knew the director I was going to be working for, having worked with him in AWS, and knew he actually gave a damn about operations. It turns out to have been one of the better career decisions I've made. Which is definitely not anything I would have associated with a job working for Oracle.
Whether the company's long term plan pans our or not is mostly irrelevant to whether you're able to do your best work.
Netsuite does own the largest cloud-based ERP
The people I spoke to were technically proficient, but not driven in the same way you'd imagine a FAANG employee to be. I eventually gave up after the process dragged out too far. You can imagine Amazon / AWS being able to get away with this, but Oracle?
And the best thing, no assholes and backstabbing like in AWS. :)
There is only so many decent jobs you know.
Then again, what is moral? Finance ? Ad tech? And don't say government, IT there is a wreck and a waste (enter Oracle, IBM contracts to piss taxpayer money to).
We're highly paid for a reason unfortunately.
My problem is that I am too naive to sharks and assholes.
I have met thousands and thousands of people in may 22 year career in tech. Of which a very very small number I am friends with still - as I find that many people are way more cunning and conniving than I allow myself to admit.
I lot of people talk big about not taking those jobs, but those that actually follow through are extremely rare.
I can absolutely with all honesty say that I would never work for a large company. I worked for a Fortune 10 (non tech) company for 3 years out of my 20 year career and I said never again. Large companies are too stifling and too regimented for me. Even if I didn’t have to move from my low cost of living area and a I was offered a job at a FAANG, I would say no.
Well with one exception, I might be willing to work for AWS as a consultant.
A software engineer looking for work could do a lot worse.
My impression of Oracle products is that they are frustrating to work with, feature-rich rather than elegant. They can work well, but take a lot of configuring and tuning.
The ex-Oracle folks I've worked with have been a mixed bag. Their reports about working for Oracle have also been mixed, skewing toward the bad. I suspect the company is basically run by sales, not engineering, certainly not customer support.
It is both the best and worse SaaS I have ever used, though my company may be switching to NetSuite ERP soon (technically also now an Oracle product).
It used to be benefits. Back in 2005 (when I worked for them for a year) they had what I understood to be the 2nd best benefits plan in tech (just after Microsoft).
1 - https://www.wired.com/2015/10/meet-walking-dead-hp-cisco-del...
I know DCO's that couldnt tell you how to find the ip of an interface that make 85k+/yr