Please do not take HN threads into ideological flamewar. This community is divided that way, just as society at large, and "
Comments should get more civil and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." (
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19346228 and marked it off-topic.