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Comment by dang | Hacker News Reader

Not new; just the link at the top is new. The hard part was what to call it. Since the point is to give people more to read, 'more' seemed right.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18512028

Edit: Oh, also: "more" fits with the "More" links you see at the bottom of the front page and other places, clicking which takes you back to previous posts.

Edit 2: Ok, you guys have convinced me you don't like "more", so let's go with "past". That word is overloaded with 'past' links that point to HN searches, but perhaps those meanings are compatible.

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I guess an answer would be to call it "old", given its placement next to "new" (and the fact that it lets you browse old stories).

or "past".

Since it looks up a specific day, how about “pastdays”.

I think they’re trying to keep each nav item a single word.

“Days”?

I like it. But it seems to default to today's date with options to readily explore "this date in history."

So I will suggest: Date

Alternately, I will suggest Top since it defaults to Stories from (today's date), ordered by how long they were on the front page.

Hopefully if enough people toss out suggestions, one will turn out to be a real improvement over more.

Maybe Explore?

I like both of these options (more than "more")

It’s neither past nor old but rather it shows the full current day first. Rather top posted grouped by day. So maybe a new ‘top’ IMO.

Or call it 'archive' may be!

or 'history' ;-)

Ok, we'll go with that for now.

I rejected it originally because there are already 'past' links on thread pages that point to HN Search, but perhaps those meanings are compatible.

I think it works well. The context seems clear to me, since the top text is time-based.

Thanks for the reordering also.

I think it’s a perfect opportunity to hackerishly use "car | cdr" or "head | tail"

Thanks! Just a reminder, don't forget to add a "hide" button under each post. Some of us use "hide" a lot. :)

Ok, added.

BTW: If there was something to reduce accidental hits on hide and flag, that would be great.

On mobile touch screens, being right under the main links they can get hit a surprising number of times and then you've got to go fumble around to undo it.

Maybe a "comfortable" setting a la Gmail?

It keeps the normies away.

Just kidding (mostly).

Just curious what purpose you use hide for? It's a feature I've always kinda ignored. (If I don't want to see a story, I just keep scrolling.)

It's good for personal bookkeeping. Whether you've already read a story, the comments or just have no interest - it's nice to get off your page so you don't have the unnecessary clutter and/or distraction.

Oh, there's a hide button ...!

On the name question, perhaps: previously. As in when tv shows continuing a story was novel, and they'd do a "Previously, on Buffy..."

I like it, except that it's too long.

Maybe "top", since it's the top posts from that date?

I think "more" is a confusing choice because you already have a "More" link at the bottom of the page that goes to the next page.

"Afore" would be nice, but it's too esoteric. How about "Ahead" ? Synonym of previously, as well as goes with the idea, like "Go ahead and read another story"

That, or: "ere". Length equal to "new" :)

Some other alternatives:

- By Date

- Date

- Rewind

- History (confusing?)

- Archive

- Old (new | old)

Time Machine (tm)

/runs

i think -Recap should be on that list, since it really is a recap of what's happening.

What about just 'recent'?

But what if you go back 5 years?

What about “Prev”?

What about "previous"? Same length as "comments".

yore

Surely "top" would be more suitable. Now when I want the second page of "more" I have to ask for more more.

Yeah, feels more like a "top". The current homepage is like Reddit's "hot", and the new "more" is like Reddit's "top".

On seeing the title I clicked the "more" button on the bottom of the front page and was confused why it seemed the same.

I would say "top" has different connotations.

More more doesn't seem so bad? It's between more and more more more.

How do you compute "time spent there?"

I believe it just means how long the entry stayed on the front page. There shouldn't be anything special about computing this number.

Ah, that makes sense. I'd initially interpreted it as some kind of engagement metric.

yep - I missed that concept too.

"...ordered by {time spent there}->(how long it was on the front page)"

Yes, I see how that was ambiguous. Have changed the language—is it clearer now?

If anyone can figure out how to make it shorter, let me know. It feels a bit wordy now.

How about "prior"?

Hmm. I like that! It's bookish but not pretentious.

Thinking.

It's organized by days, so how about "daily"? Nice short word that is intuitive to me.

or daily top / top daily

Seems like an archive feature? Since you can go back to see the contents of front pages from previous days. But "Front Page Archive" doesn't necessary condense well into single word unless you're going to call it /archive.

Snapshot. Or Time Capsule. It’s really like a glimpse of the most important news on that specific day. More just feels like moving to the next page.

Really cool concept in my opinion; no matter what the name is.

Agree. More is too often used to display 'more options', which is what I thought this was going to be. I tailgated on your Snapshot and "Time Capsule" suggestions (which I liked) to try to find other one word alternatives. Came up with the following:

cache, record, timecard, log, chronicle, registry, diary, chronology, timeline, calendar, register, log and archive.

I'm partial to snapshot, archive and timeline - as one word substitutes.

i would have picked today or maybe front.

more could be confused with the more link at the bottom and it doesn't really tell the whole story.

i discovered front by accident when the above announcement came up in a search, and i have been using it ever since to keep up with the top hits of the day. it actually helps me to read less and limit my time on hackernews.

Personally, I would call it "time" as a dual-meaning single word that references both the ability to go to a specific day and the fact that it is computed based on time spent (and maybe also "go here if you find yourself with some extra time to sink in").

Shouldn't the URL slug also be "more", then?

/front seems like the right URL for what's there. But we can't put a 'front' link on the front page.

it may look odd, but hackernews readers are inquisitive, and will check it out. on the other hand i would guess that most will ignore more thinking it's the same as the more link at the bottom.

actually the problem with front is not on the front page but on all others where it will make people think that it goes to the front page...

It would be more clear to call it time travel.

would "browse" be a poor description? given the functionality to move back/forward.

'digest' as in 'Reader's Digest' and what has already been digested.

Past is better. Not great, but better than more. Thanks for listening!

Are new features still implemented in Arc?

Always.

At least it’s not called “less”.

well, i do use /front to spend less time on hn, so that would actually work for me :-)

déjà vu

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